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> OT: Backyard metal foundry almost done :), aluminum/brass casting getting closer...
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post Mar 20 2006, 11:08 PM
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QUOTE (jonwatts @ Mar 20 2006, 08:46 PM)
How about a set of brass balls? Always nice to have spares.

Are you thinking of going into Real Estate Sales?
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post Mar 21 2006, 12:09 AM
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QUOTE (fiid @ Mar 20 2006, 09:08 PM)
QUOTE (jonwatts @ Mar 20 2006, 08:46 PM)
How about a set of brass balls? Always nice to have spares.

Are you thinking of going into Real Estate Sales?

Not here, back on the east coast. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wink.gif)


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post Mar 21 2006, 10:45 AM
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QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Mar 20 2006, 05:02 PM)
cool. how many #s will your crucible hold? i wonder what will happen when you mix a few different alloys? (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)  are you going to try making your molds with Green Sand? you have to wear boots mike! don't burn yourself and have fun!

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Well....as usual, I didn't do my homework and i bought the 1st "cheap" crucible I saw on eBay....it'll hold 28# of aluminum but is way too big for my furnace (I thought it better to build and learn on a smaller furnace)....sooooo I bought another crucible that'll hold 14# and it's a tight fit and not too easy to grab with the tongs so I know have another one which is a tad bit smaller and safer to use.

I have Petrobond ® for for the sand, it's a commercial product that has found it's way to the hobbiest...oil based

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How about a set of brass balls? Always nice to have spares.


have you been talking to Sherryl? She just mentioned having me get "snipped", nothing about removing them completly (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)



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post Mar 21 2006, 10:56 AM
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I vote for a set of jack stands, made out out of beer cans.

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post Mar 21 2006, 11:03 AM
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oil based? i bet that will be smokey. i wonder if after one use the oil base is pretty much burned out? check out "foundries" in the phone book mike. i bet you can buy some 5 gal buckets of green sand for next to nothing. where are the furnace pictures? another thread? did you spring for the pyrometer yet?

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post Mar 21 2006, 11:33 AM
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QUOTE (rhodyguy @ Mar 21 2006, 10:03 AM)
oil based? i bet that will be smokey. i wonder if after one use the oil base is pretty much burned out? check out "foundries" in the phone book mike. i bet you can buy some 5 gal buckets of green sand for next to nothing. where are the furnace pictures? another thread? did you spring for the pyrometer yet?

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apperantly not that bad.....it seems the vast majority of hobbiest use the PetroBond with great success.......the stuff can be reused, only the material in direct contact with the metal get's "cooked" (1/8" to 3/8" sand thickness), the surrounding sand is fine to reuse...the "cooked" sand can be thrown out or recycled to be used again...

no, I have not gotten a pyrometer yet, still looking at the different units that I can make (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smash.gif)

Check out this thing, with a 3D model (and some cash (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/smile.gif) ), the machine will make your mold for you

"Print" your own mold and cores for casting





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post Mar 21 2006, 12:13 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 21 2006, 08:45 AM)



have you been talking to Sherryl? She just mentioned having me get "snipped", nothing about removing them completly  :wacko:

Yeah, its totally painless.....for her!!! haha

They should have done something "while they were in there" during the birth process.


Oh, if you do go ahead with this....she better be ready for sex with you 5 times a day for the first week.
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post Mar 21 2006, 02:32 PM
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QUOTE (Mueller @ Mar 20 2006, 07:56 AM)
The burner is finished, I got the plans from http://www.backyardmetalcasting.com/index.html

It's a pretty simple propane burner, built from steel pipe for gas lines....cost a few bucks to make (the regulator with gauge cost about $40)

I hope to be melting some aluminum and brass sometime this week....not as loud as I thougt it would be, but it does make some noise (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

So far my "donor" aluminum scrap will come from some old used 2.0 pistons, a 914 steering rack, possibly an old 15x7 Phonedial that had a run in with a curb...of course I still don't know what the heck I am going to attept to make...

The neighbors are nervous (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/wacko.gif)

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Mike,

Can't tell from photo, but is your burner inlet offset (more like tangential) to the cylinder? The furnace sites I've been looking at put the burner tangentially rather than radially to the cylindrical interior, then they "blast" the flame with a blower. This gives the swirling affect and superheats the interior.

Hold on to that 'oversized' crubible. The house I rented has a 55 gallon drum sitting in the backyard.... it's MINE NOW!!
I should be able to build a BIG ASS furnace... I'm feeding that baby with crankcase oil though..can't afford the propane bill for something that big.


I believe a leather/Nomex apron and/or leggings are your best bet to keep from getting burned.

Keep up the progress before those babies sink their teeth into you... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 21 2006, 02:39 PM
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Can't tell from photo, but is your burner inlet offset (more like tangential) to the cylinder? The furnace sites I've been looking at put the burner tangentially rather than radially to the cylindrical interior, then they "blast" the flame with a blower. This gives the swirling affect and superheats the interior.


Yes, it is offset......not only have I been checking out all the websites related to this, but I've added at least 15 books on the subject to my office library....
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post Mar 21 2006, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE (Brian Mifsud @ Mar 21 2006, 12:32 PM)
I believe a leather/Nomex apron and/or leggings are your best bet to keep from getting burned.

No way that's going to happen. I've seen photos of those California boys at their sawzall parties and all they ever wear are shorts, teeshirts and flip-flops! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)
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post Mar 21 2006, 04:27 PM
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Mike,
What size crucible would fit best in your furnace? I have these two collecting dust here. The bigger one is 4 3/4"ODx10"H.
I also have an old pair of leather chaps at the shop that I only use to drape over sensetive car parts when I'm welding nearby.


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post Mar 21 2006, 05:39 PM
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QUOTE (maf914 @ Mar 21 2006, 01:48 PM)
QUOTE (Brian Mifsud @ Mar 21 2006, 12:32 PM)
I believe a leather/Nomex apron and/or leggings are your best bet to keep from getting burned.

No way that's going to happen. I've seen photos of those California boys at their sawzall parties and all they ever wear are shorts, teeshirts and flip-flops! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/laugh.gif)

that describes me to a 'T'....

i have Nomez flip flops for trackdays and for metal casting.... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 21 2006, 08:45 PM
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We have used a lot of SLA cores to make complex stainless parts. Coat them in plaster and cast away.

Same process as lost foam- SLA burns out.

Muller, ya might want a copy of the 1930's books "Amature Telescope Making" vols 1, 2 and 3.

They go into detail on casting aluminum parts in yer back yard using easy to obtain materials. They use a barrel lined with firebrick, charcoal, and a fan blowing into the barrel for the furnace. They cast a bigg ass aluminum fork for a telescope.

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post Mar 21 2006, 09:29 PM
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...I took an adult ed metal class at the local high school and the instructor had a foundry set-up for casting aluminum...he used to cut up otherwise unreparable wheels...his favorites were from BMW's...made really great castings, mostly small parts for projects he was working on, machined very well...looked great. I never got around to doing any cast projects, but he had a great set-up. Something like this might be a good alternative to building ones own smeltry! Having that much heat around the back yard is scary...
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Hey Mike,,

You should make some badges for our grills with some of that awsome molten form 914! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

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QUOTE (Rotary'14 @ Mar 21 2006, 08:45 PM)
You should make some badges for our grills with some of that awsome molten form 914!

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You shouldn'tve mentioned this online. Now your going to be loaded with so many projects.... Good luck, Mueller.
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Mueller is already loaded with projects, I have a couple for him myself, which he has kindly refused because of time...

But he's always into good idea's!

lol, Mueller is Project master... Never to finish one.
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Depending on how long you've got to fire the burner, you may get into problems with your tank freezing. I had this problem doing ceramics, a long time ago.
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QUOTE (9146986 @ Mar 22 2006, 11:17 AM)
Depending on how long you've got to fire the burner, you may get into problems with your tank freezing.  I had this problem doing ceramics, a long time ago.

Put it in a warm-water bath?

Place it on top of the kiln? (not) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/blowup.gif)
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