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> Dream Car, We can do it.
Howard
post Mar 22 2006, 04:47 PM
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All these treads containing 'I wish they would make...'

My ideal would be cheap, light, and quick. 180mph top speed and 0-60 under 5.0 not required. No reinventing the wheel, just distilling most wanted features into one car.

Opposed or an inline laid flat so C/G close to axle centerline. A/C, stereo, etc. good, but have delete option for club sport version. No turbo/supercharger and possible 'green' version hybrid. Continuously variable tranny.

ABS/traction/airbags and protective cockpit. Make it look like a 55 to 65 sport racer. Lotus 23, RS60, etc. No bulges (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/mad.gif)

Target is 2:
2000 lbs
200hp
$20,000

There is enough artistic and engineering expertise here to do it.
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post Mar 22 2006, 04:52 PM
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Quit smokin those "Russian" ciggys and go back to sleep....we already have a $20K, 2K pound car, w/ 200 HP. It's called a Raby Teener or is that Rabid Teener. The "air bag" sits next to ya and the ABS (ABsolutely won't stop) is functional. Traction control is by "Right Foot" and A/C is by "80 MPH".
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post Mar 22 2006, 04:56 PM
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i always wanted one of those "C111"s ...

picture is a Type I (1969), the Type II had better specs, 4 rotor wankel engine, 350 HP, 290ft-lb torque, 180mph top speed, 0-60 in 4.8 secs ...

we should build something along those lines ...
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post Mar 22 2006, 04:58 PM
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sharp paint,

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post Mar 22 2006, 05:00 PM
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Something between the 2 (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
Love the C111 but too much tech, 914 too little. We's trying to make $$ here.
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post Mar 22 2006, 05:22 PM
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You mean, those two cars I photographied last month at the Stuttgart Mercedes Museum ?

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post Mar 22 2006, 05:23 PM
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Cool idea. I'd contribute to the effort.

Keep it skinny though. No big ass ugly flares (sorry flare guys).

Just subtle mods to fit some bigger tires to handle the power.
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post Mar 22 2006, 05:24 PM
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QUOTE (SLITS @ Mar 22 2006, 02:52 PM)
we already have a $20K, 2K pound car, w/ 200 HP. It's called a Raby Teener or is that Rabid Teener.

Really?
Ever seen one & had a chance to drive it?.....me neither. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/rolleyes.gif)
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post Mar 22 2006, 05:47 PM
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QUOTE (SLITS @ Mar 22 2006, 02:52 PM)
we already have a $20K, 2K pound car, w/ 200 HP. It's called a Raby Teener or is that Rabid Teener.

yeah, but that's just the raby motor that is $20k. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 22 2006, 05:52 PM
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A subaru EJ25 with cams, good exhaust, and intake could get just about to 200 HP. Of course the turbo motors will do much more than that. All for a lot less money than an air cooled engine.

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post Mar 22 2006, 06:02 PM
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QUOTE (TonyAKAVW @ Mar 22 2006, 06:52 PM)
A subaru EJ25 with cams, good exhaust, and intake could get just about to 200 HP. Of course the turbo motors will do much more than that. All for a lot less money than an air cooled engine.

-Tony

what he said....

i have my current car that i am keeping relatively true to form (air cooled) at the prompting of a suby convert. and i agree.

but......

gonna score a roller some day and that sucker is gonna be a suby with some tony/thacher/et al, parts and input.....

with a nice roller, you could have a screaming vehicle that will turn heads and go like hell for $20k or less.

cheers and i am gonna watch this one..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)
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post Mar 22 2006, 06:11 PM
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Can we keep it ALL Porsche?
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post Mar 22 2006, 06:13 PM
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Dude...

TR3 with a big block!
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post Mar 22 2006, 06:16 PM
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QUOTE (scottb @ Mar 22 2006, 07:02 PM)
QUOTE (TonyAKAVW @ Mar 22 2006, 06:52 PM)
A subaru EJ25 with cams, good exhaust, and intake could get just about to 200 HP.  Of course the turbo motors will do much more than that.  All for a lot less money than an air cooled engine.

-Tony

what he said....

i have my current car that i am keeping relatively true to form (air cooled) at the prompting of a suby convert. and i agree.

but......

gonna score a roller some day and that sucker is gonna be a suby with some tony/thacher/et al, parts and input.....

with a nice roller, you could have a screaming vehicle that will turn heads and go like hell for $20k or less.

cheers and i am gonna watch this one..... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/beer.gif)

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post Mar 22 2006, 06:16 PM
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come on, it has to be the silver teener from Camp914, at twice the price
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post Mar 22 2006, 06:43 PM
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QUOTE (vortrex @ Mar 22 2006, 03:47 PM)
QUOTE (SLITS @ Mar 22 2006, 02:52 PM)
we already have a $20K, 2K pound car, w/ 200 HP.  It's called a Raby Teener or is that Rabid Teener.

yeah, but that's just the raby motor that is $20k. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)

i think it's $22k for the motor only (all the bells and whistles), so it must be a different car he's talking about. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/biggrin.gif)
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post Mar 22 2006, 06:55 PM
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Howard, you've got some nice goals there.

From a performance perspective, why would you want a CVT unless you were running something other than a conventional 4 stroke. Be a waste of engine...

Try this:

A Locost 7 chassis with an arctic cat driveline.

<1500 lbs, 200 hp, bullet proof CVT. Will probably go like stink and scare the livin' bugeezes out of ya! ABS and tranction control? Okay, there's aftermarket gizmo's for that. So that's possible. Air bag? Why? Just use a good 6 pt harness. Stereo?!?!? What Stereo?!?!? What?!?!? I can't hear you!!!!! (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/burnout.gif)

Now -that- would be wicked fun. Noisy as all get out, but will blow the doors off nearly everthing else out there. Had a friend with a Locost, but couldn't convince him to go the snowmobile drivetrain route... Too bad...

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post Mar 22 2006, 08:32 PM
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How much is an Elise and a Boxster? I think something could be built with off the shelf and salvage parts.
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post Mar 22 2006, 08:35 PM
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ABS in a teener would be nice...

Especially for those who dont trust their right foot. (or left... depending on the corner..)
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post Mar 22 2006, 08:49 PM
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On your mark, get set, FABRICATE!

How about a LoCost chassis, subi STI engine running to a 944 transaxle in the back? Light weight, 300/300 hp/tq, 50/50 balance...

Or just go American and build a superstalker.

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