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post Mar 31 2006, 06:51 PM
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Just got my new Avon tech R-A 's 205 50 15

they won't fit a stock bodied car!!!
I tried them on my Revolution wheels (7 inch rim)
I might try them on my fuchs(5.5 inch rim)
still not sure the will fit.
I call Tire rack before I orderd them and the said I will have no problems!!!!
I have used Kumho,hoosier,yokohammas with NO problems in the past
BE care full!!!
they hang over the rim about a half inch on either side
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post Mar 31 2006, 06:59 PM
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they should fit fine upfront tho no?
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post Mar 31 2006, 07:05 PM
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the front will fit
the rears not even close!
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post Mar 31 2006, 07:06 PM
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I got Avon Tech R 205 50 15's on 6" Panasports under my fenders. The fenders are pulled a little and I have about 3/4" of space.

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post Mar 31 2006, 07:11 PM
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your's aren't the RA, just the R dave? is the a for asymetrical? for drill i'd like to put one of the panasports on the rear of my car . just to see.

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post Mar 31 2006, 07:17 PM
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The RA is the new tire that replaces the R. The RA I believe is stiffer and heavier. Also, more expensive. Come on over sometime and we'll try em, Kevin.

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post Mar 31 2006, 07:23 PM
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QUOTE (ynotdd @ Mar 31 2006, 04:51 PM)
I tried them on my Revolution wheels (7 inch rim)

You realize the tires will be wider overall when mounted on 7" rims than 5.5s, right? Try the Fuchs, you may find that they fit. Or are close enough that a little pulling will let them.

205s are pretty close even on 5.5s; I'm not surprised that they don't fit on 7s. I believe Rich Johnson had to do a whole lot of work to get 205s on 7" Fuchs to fit under his stock fenders...

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post Mar 31 2006, 07:25 PM
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QUOTE (ynotdd @ Mar 31 2006, 04:51 PM)
I have used Kumho,hoosier,yokohammas with NO problems in the past

All 205s are not created equal!

Here is the progression of 205-50x15 widths from smallest to biggest

Kumho < Hoosier < Avon

I run Avon 205-50x15 R-As and they fit fine on 7" fuchs on the front.

If you ran Hoosiers on the rear with no problems, the Avons are only a little bigger...


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post Mar 31 2006, 09:39 PM
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(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) Pradon me for being a purist!

Never, ever bend your bodywork to fit tires, unless you are committed to racing or autocrossing the car and have no concern for it's future value. The chassis,suspension, etc. was never designed/made for the rigors of contemporary hard-core tires/usage.

If you've upgraded the chassis & suspension/brakes for comp use...fine - just realize that few collectors will want your car wen you've finished thrasing it on the track.

Keep going. My box stock car will shine at future auctions when I'm too old t enjoy it.

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post Mar 31 2006, 10:37 PM
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Hmmm, I didn't know these ran a little wider even than the Hoosiers. I was thinking about trying to cram some 225/50 Victoracers on my car but maybe I will try a set of the 205/50R15 Avons on my 15x7's... If they perform comparably to Hoosiers for less $$$ I wouldn't complain about that. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/driving.gif)
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post Apr 1 2006, 01:05 AM
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OK... (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/unsure.gif)

So this doesn't fly?


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post Apr 1 2006, 01:11 AM
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QUOTE (race914 @ Mar 31 2006, 06:25 PM)
Kumho < Hoosier < Avon

Where do the Toyo's fit in this hierarchy?
Are they wider or narrower than the Kumho's?
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post Apr 1 2006, 06:49 AM
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QUOTE (campbellcj @ Mar 31 2006, 08:37 PM)
Hmmm, I didn't know these ran a little wider even than the Hoosiers.  I was thinking about trying to cram some 225/50 Victoracers on my car but maybe I will try a set of the 205/50R15 Avons on my 15x7's...  If they perform comparably to Hoosiers for less $$$ I wouldn't complain about that.  :driving:

I decided to try the Avons after my Hoosier R3S03s needed replacing and was hearing negative comments about the R3S04s.

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I'm a convert.
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post Apr 1 2006, 08:18 AM
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I read a couple of post were you have stated your opinions strongly. Everyone on the board has an opinion about how they want to use their car. You want to keep yours stock and that's great. I hope it gives you great satisfaction and I'm sure it is very nice. If I saw it I probably would enjoy looking at a car that represents what these cars were designed to be. I wouldn't try to talk you out of that goal, in fact, since that's what you want I would encourage you to build it and keep it the best you can.

However, that goal is not what I have chosen and what a lot of other people have chosen. I enjoy modifying my car and, I enjoy the fact that it will go faster and stop better and turn better than it did when it is stock. It's value to me is it is a toy and I view it as a consumable. I do not plan to sell it ever so resale value at auction is meaningless to me. My son and daughter will get it when I can no longer drive it if I haven't consumed it already.

Neither of us is right or wrong; please accept that. Take a little broader view and realize that 914's are different cars to different people and you will enjoy your time here more. The beauty of this board is it's diversity. Back off a little and enjoy that.

Incidentally, my car's bodywork was massaged by a tire installer at a chain that was trying to get 195's mounted on EMPIs under a stock rear. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) So much fpr stock body work.

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QUOTE (Pat Garvey @ Mar 31 2006, 07:39 PM)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) Pradon me for being a purist!

Never, ever bend your bodywork to fit tires, unless you are committed to racing or autocrossing the car and have no concern for it's future value. The chassis,suspension, etc. was never designed/made for the rigors of contemporary hard-core tires/usage.

If you've upgraded the chassis & suspension/brakes for comp use...fine - just realize that few collectors will want your car wen you've finished thrasing it on the track.

Keep going. My box stock car will shine at future auctions when I'm too old t enjoy it.

Thanks

Hmmm, you again. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/dry.gif)
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post Apr 1 2006, 02:20 PM
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QUOTE (DNHunt @ Apr 1 2006, 07:18 AM)
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I read a couple of post were you have stated your opinions strongly. Everyone on the board has an opinion about how they want to use their car. You want to keep yours stock and that's great. I hope it gives you great satisfaction and I'm sure it is very nice. If I saw it I probably would enjoy looking at a car that represents what these cars were designed to be. I wouldn't try to talk you out of that goal, in fact, since that's what you want I would encourage you to build it and keep it the best you can.

However, that goal is not what I have chosen and what a lot of other people have chosen. I enjoy modifying my car and, I enjoy the fact that it will go faster and stop better and turn better than it did when it is stock. It's value to me is it is a toy and I view it as a consumable. I do not plan to sell it ever so resale value at auction is meaningless to me. My son and daughter will get it when I can no longer drive it if I haven't consumed it already.

Neither of us is right or wrong; please accept that. Take a little broader view and realize that 914's are different cars to different people and you will enjoy your time here more. The beauty of this board is it's diversity. Back off a little and enjoy that.

Incidentally, my car's bodywork was massaged by a tire installer at a chain that was trying to get 195's mounted on EMPIs under a stock rear. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) So much fpr stock body work.

Dave

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fwiw. i agree on bending the body up for a set of tires to ax once in a while. i think it's the wrong approach. yomv.

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here!



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QUOTE (Pat Garvey @ Mar 31 2006, 08:39 PM)
(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/html/emoticons/ar15.gif) Pradon me for being a purist!

Never, ever bend your bodywork to fit tires, unless you are committed to racing or autocrossing the car and have no concern for it's future value. The chassis,suspension, etc. was never designed/made for the rigors of contemporary hard-core tires/usage.

If you've upgraded the chassis & suspension/brakes for comp use...fine - just realize that few collectors will want your car wen you've finished thrasing it on the track.

Keep going. My box stock car will shine at future auctions when I'm too old t enjoy it.

Thanks

What happens when there aren't any stock-fendered cars left out there? Then those damn collectors will buy the fendered 914s and they'll like it!
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