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> Shift Bushing replacement, Looking for hints and tricks
KaptKaos
post Apr 15 2006, 01:03 PM
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Ok, so I am in the process of replacing all of my shift bushings (side shift).

I have the rear rod out, the new rear bushing is in. The new cup bushing is in, but its not on the ball yet.

Here are the questions:

1) What's the easiest way to get the firewall bushing in? I have heard that if you soak it in hot water, it helps it to go in. I have been using a hammer (BFH) and a socket to try and get it in there. Any other hints?

2) Do I need to use a BFH to get the cup bushing onto the ball?

3) The coupler bushings do look look fun at all. I assume that that they mount inside. I have read that I need to get that 1/2" pin out and the best way is to use a vice. Is this correct? I have it soaking in penetrant now, hopefully to make the process easier.

3.5) [edit] How do I get that pin back in when I get the bushings installed?

4) Should I be using or avoiding the use of a lubricant like white lithium grease to help get these bushes in?

5) Lastly, I got 2 new set scews in the kit from PP. The have these little sections on the threads that I assume will "set" the screws as I tighten them down. Is this correct or do I need to reuse the old ones?

Thanks in advance.

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post Apr 15 2006, 01:14 PM
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I have a few answers.

1) Yes, hot water works with the firewall bushing. I put a coffee mug filled with water and the bushing in the microwave for a minute or so. Immediately took it to the garage and popped it right in.

5) I think you are refering to the cone screws. Probably best to replace your old ones and use some loctite on the new ones. They have a habit of unscrewing themselves at times.
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post Apr 15 2006, 02:05 PM
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Joe, for the ball cup bushing, you could use a vice clamp to pop in place. If that doesnt work try using a little grease to ease it in a bit easier.
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post Apr 15 2006, 03:34 PM
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Joe - choo got mah numba, gimme a ring a ding if you have issues....

for posterity, il chime in here.
1) i did the hot water and socket thing. worked for me.
2) i did the cup bushing with my hands. use some grease in there. dont be a girly man. be a man, use your hands.
3) yes. read my article. a pita. a punch and a BFH will get the pin out, clean up with sand paper. put the bushings in and reinstall.
3.5 ) same way it went out.
4) couldnt hurt.
5) use the new ones. they tend to be one time use only. use some blue threadlocker if you feel the need (NOT red)

i told you to just come on over and we could do it... but no.... you gotta do it yourself LOL
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post Apr 15 2006, 04:02 PM
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The "sections" on the threads of the new screws are the "locks". That's why you use new ones. Loctite not necessary.

For the coupler use a vise, a bolt slightly smaller in diameter than the pin and a deep socket to catch the pin. Use the vise like a press to remove the pin.
Use the vise to press the pin back in, no socket/bolt required.

The pot metal is easily broken and a hammer/punch is much more risky than the method above.

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post Apr 15 2006, 05:07 PM
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QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Apr 15 2006, 02:03 PM) *

Here are the questions:

1) What's the easiest way to get the firewall bushing in? I have heard that if you soak it in hot water, it helps it to go in. I have been using a hammer (BFH) and a socket to try and get it in there. Any other hints?

- Joe





If the hot water doesn't work for you on the firewall bushing, simply cut a diagonal slit in the bushing and "screw" it into place. Very easy. Doesn't come out. Old P-tech gave me this tip.

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post Apr 16 2006, 04:55 PM
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Thanks all for the advice. Got it done and it shifts so much more precisely now it is scary how bad it was before, and it was still decent shifting.

My neighbor Jeff provided the vice to press out that pin in the coupler. (Thanks Jeff, not that he'll read this) and the rest was easy.

Made 2 minor mistakes.

1) I put the coupler on upside down the first time. I had to drive out the pin again and put it back.

2) I had everything bolted up and forgot the cover on the side of the tranny. I had to unbolt it all and put the cover on and then rebolt it all together.

So that's the deal - I recommend the replacement as it makes a big difference.

Thanks again for all the advice.
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post Apr 16 2006, 04:57 PM
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ROFL! i made mistake numba 1 too!!!!
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post Apr 17 2006, 07:49 AM
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QUOTE(Aaron Cox @ Apr 16 2006, 02:57 PM) *

ROFL! i made mistake numba 1 too!!!!


Here is one other upgrade you can do to the cone screws if that keep falling out.
Buy a cone screw for a 356 Porsche instead. It has provisions for using a safety wire threaded through a small hole in the bolt head. The bolt is slightly longer and its head ihas a square head instead of an allen head. Also clean up the threads and use a dab of locktite. Lyle
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post Apr 17 2006, 08:23 AM
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QUOTE(KaptKaos @ Apr 16 2006, 03:55 PM) *

Thanks all for the advice. Got it done and it shifts so much more precisely now it is scary how bad it was before, and it was still decent shifting.

My neighbor Jeff provided the vice to press out that pin in the coupler. (Thanks Jeff, not that he'll read this) and the rest was easy.

Made 2 minor mistakes.

1) I put the coupler on upside down the first time. I had to drive out the pin again and put it back.

2) I had everything bolted up and forgot the cover on the side of the tranny. I had to unbolt it all and put the cover on and then rebolt it all together.

So that's the deal - I recommend the replacement as it makes a big difference.

Thanks again for all the advice.


I was so excited to get the crumbled pieces of my shift coupler bushings out, I did #1, halfway from using the vice to going back to my house I realized the holes for the screws both point the same way. Had my buddy push the shift knob forward so the coupler would go back together, would have forgotten the cover, if he had not said, "Uh, dude, don't you want to put that cover back on before you put that screw in?" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif)

I heated the ball cup bushing(long deep one under the cover) in boiling water, popped it on the ball by hand, then slid it into its little hole Like the idea for a screw with a wire, probably saved them a minute a car on assembly with the dab of loctite or nylon insert in screw. There are a lot of ways to get the firewall bushing in, I want to know how to get that boot over the tiny little firewall lip...That is why the coupler bushings were so bad. Shifts better than my Dad's '84 911 now, and he has had his shifter bushings replaced when he had the car gone through.
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post Apr 17 2006, 09:46 AM
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QUOTE(Tobra @ Apr 17 2006, 07:23 AM) *

I want to know how to get that boot over the tiny little firewall lip...That is why the coupler bushings were so bad.


Second that!! How does someone get that boot into place?
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post Apr 17 2006, 09:48 AM
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with a cotter pin removal pic.

with the right tools, it isnt so bad. stretch and stick it over.

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