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| Air_Cooled_Nut |
  Apr 15 2006, 04:48 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com  Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None  |
It's that time of year again where I need to get new, sticky tires for my '95 VW Jetta -- come to think of it, my girlfriend's '02 Passat needs tires as well. Anyway, what I currently have:
Kuhmo 215/40ZR16, Treadwear 280, Traction AA, Temp. A I'm looking for a good, all-season performance tire. Good water-evacuation is a "must have". I'd rather error on excellent summer performance than cold-weather performance. The snow/ice we get here in Portland is only a couple weeks at most, and generally not consecutively. But it does stay wet. I also will use the same tires for auto-crossing (EP). I liked the Kuhmos (my second set). They're nice in the wet and when new. But as they get to the replacment point their traction isn't good. What I did like about them is that they didn't break-away immediately -- they would balk and squeal, giving good audio feedback when their limit was being reached, thus no surprises when traction was finally lost. Recommendations? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) (IMG:http://www.icbm.org/erkson/personal/mycars/no_rear_emblems.jpg) |
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| VegasRacer |
Apr 16 2006, 05:29 AM
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ELVIRA Group: Benefactors Posts: 8,497 Joined: 27-March 03 From: Between Scylla and Charybdis Member No.: 481 Region Association: None 
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Toyo T1-S. Good on the track. Good in the wet. Not so good in the snow.
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| anthony |
Apr 16 2006, 12:57 PM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
The Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 are pretty awesome sticky, daily driver tires. They are exceptional in the wet according to tire rack tests and almost equal to the Bridgestone SO-3 in the dry.
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| TROJANMAN |
Apr 16 2006, 01:12 PM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,258 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
that jetta's illegally parked (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
i like the kuhmo 712. i had them on one of my Mercedes. Good all around tire. you are going to sacrafice some performance with a harder tire, but it has a really high tread rating for a Z rated tire. |
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| Air_Cooled_Nut |
Apr 16 2006, 01:59 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(anthony @ Apr 16 2006, 10:57 AM)  The Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 are pretty awesome sticky, daily driver tires. They are exceptional in the wet according to tire rack tests and almost equal to the Bridgestone SO-3 in the dry. Yeah, I've been on The Tire Rack website for over an hour (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Reviews are all over the board. And since I don't know if the complaints are legit or just driver error they really aren't much help. So far I've got these four tires as candidates from various searches there (in no particular order):
People keep mentioning 'bubbling' on the Goodyear's you mention...what's 'bubbling'? Anyway, this is frustrating! I know I'll be sacrificing one thing for another...maybe I'm fretting over split-hairs? Wish I could afford dedicated summer and winter tires :pray: |
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| anthony |
Apr 17 2006, 01:25 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
QUOTE(Air_Cooled_Nut @ Apr 16 2006, 12:59 PM) People keep mentioning 'bubbling' on the Goodyear's you mention...what's 'bubbling'? I'm not sure what they mean by bubbling - a tire defect? I have the Goodyear GS-D3 on my 911 and love them. I've done a 2 day AX school (dozens of runs) and several other AXs as well as a two years of agressive driving on them and they have been fantastic tires and still have lots of tread. |
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| gopack |
Apr 17 2006, 05:42 AM
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CHEESEHEAD in CA, MARK Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 7-August 04 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 2,472 Region Association: Northern California |
I had the Kuhmo exsta 712s on my 89 maxima when I lived in NM. they were very good in rain which is one reason I bought them. I loved the way they handled in the mountains too!
(IMG:http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/GOPACK42/old%20pics/1cfd.jpg)(IMG:http://i53.photobucket.com/albums/g75/GOPACK42/old%20pics/4118.jpg) PLUS I liked the way they looked too. I wouldnt expect more than one seasons worth of use from them if you drive hard, AND they really SUCK in snow so there is that. |
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| lotus_65 |
Apr 17 2006, 05:59 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,608 Joined: 21-March 05 From: minneapolis, mn Member No.: 3,795 Region Association: Northstar Region |
the 712's are a great way to go, especially if you don't drive in any snow and ice. there's compromises with everything, but they kick butt.
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| Air_Cooled_Nut |
Apr 18 2006, 10:38 PM
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914 Ronin - 914 owner who lost his 914club.com Group: Members Posts: 1,748 Joined: 19-April 03 From: Beaverton, Oregon Member No.: 584 Region Association: None |
I just went out an checked my tires...Kumho ECSTA Supra 712 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
I'm tempted by the Goodyears. I know the Kumho's are good in the rain and suck in the snow -- but I have dedicated snow tires w/studs for those days -- but the pricing is in my range (leaving more for the 914)...decisions decisions... |
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| Pugbug |
Apr 18 2006, 11:25 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 449 Joined: 14-February 05 From: Victoria, BC Member No.: 3,604 |
From Consumer Reports....Tires rated by number...Best is highest number, worst is lowest number.
I have Bridgstone Potenza Re 950 on my 914, and like them. Ratings Performance all-season car tires CR Quick Recommendations See a summary of test findings and Quick Picks--the choices that merit first consideration. Top scorers blend added grip with less noise. Some of the most comfortable and fuel-efficient tires scored lowest overall, however. And for both groups, price bore little relationship to performance. The Ratings rank tires by overall performance within types. Our Quick Picks focus on value and specific driving needs. QuickPicks If fuel mileage is a priority: Michelin Energy MXV4 Plus This Michelin MXV4 Plus is among the lowest for rolling resistance, but it's pricey. Best for most; fine grip with comfort: Bridgestone Turanza LS-H Falken Ziex ZE 512 The Falken Ziex ZE 512 emphasizes braking and ride, the Bridgestone Turanza LS-H handling. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- If winter driving isn't a factor or you own a set of winter tires: Bridgestone RE950 The Bridgestone Potenza RE950 offers the best three-season grip in this category. Close Click for more information Brand and model Overall score Dry Wet Winter Comfort Other indicates a Quick Pick meriting first consideration. Falken Ziex ZE 512 87. Bridgestone Turanza LS-H 83. Bridgestone RE950 81. Michelin Pilot XGT H4 79. Dunlop SP Sport A2 77. Michelin Energy MXV4 Plus 77. Pirelli P6 Four Seasons 75. Sumitomo Srixon 4 74. Continental ContiTouring Contact 66. Kelly Charger HR 65. Cooper Lifeliner Touring SLE 64. Toyo Proxes TPT 62. Goodyear Eagle LS 60. Uniroyal Tiger Paw Touring HR 56. General Exclaim 53. Firestone Affinity LH30 48. Marketed as sport performance; others are touring performance. |
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