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| boxstr |
 Apr 17 2006, 10:06 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION  Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest  |
This video shows is a few reasons to keep your eyes on the car on the course. Plus this doesn't look like a very safe place top hold an AX, light poles and people standing on the course.
http://www.leftinsmoke.com/index.php?param...Corvette-Crash/ CCLINWTF |
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| Part Pricer |
Apr 17 2006, 10:10 AM
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Believe everything I post Group: Benefactors Posts: 1,825 Joined: 28-December 02 From: Danbury, CT Member No.: 35  |
Horrible! |
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| dinomium |
Apr 17 2006, 10:24 AM
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Git on a chair son, all the good stuff is goin over yer head! Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,777 Joined: 2-January 03 From: Bremerton, WA Member No.: 74 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
wow
that is all I can say about that one... |
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| Randal |
Apr 17 2006, 10:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Part Pricer @ Apr 17 2006, 09:10 AM)  Horrible! Right. Bet that course designer didn't read Roger's book. You always leave at least 75-100 feet between the course and the outside edge of the track. If that outside edge is a curb, other concrete obstruction or whatever (water at Alameda) then you might have to leave more. What the designer was trying to do was to make the course faster, but it this case it made it unsafe. Course designing is serious stuff. |
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| turboman808 |
Apr 17 2006, 10:31 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
It can be pretty scary out there sometimes. Lets face it not everyone at the autox is the brightest bulb in the lot. Throw in an unskilled driver or a poorly designed course and you got a real recepie for disaster.
Twice 2 weeks ago while working the skinny asian kid at the next station got in the drivers way. Wrong driver and he would have been toast. |
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| Leo Imperial |
Apr 17 2006, 10:49 AM
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Do you have to use so many cuss words? Group: Members Posts: 906 Joined: 29-November 04 From: 914 Roadshow - Glen Cove NY Member No.: 3,192 Region Association: None |
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| jhadler |
Apr 17 2006, 11:01 AM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Yeah, that's a nasty one. There have been worse...
This particular one happened a number of years ago at an event in the Mid West. Was not an SCCA event though. It wasn't that fast of a course, but having spectators right next to the course is never a safe thing to do... -Josh2 |
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| ClayPerrine |
Apr 17 2006, 11:20 AM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,463 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille 
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We had one at the MUSR one year. We had an AX in conjunction with the local PCA event, and a Corvette driver suffered testosterone induced brain fade.
He ended up getting the car airborne, hitting a concrete filled steel pole which ripped the door skin off the right side, and backing into another concrete filled pole, which triggered the airbags. Luckly no one was hurt. He was bent way out of shape going through the timing lights, and didn't get his foot off the gas. The dip after the timed section of the course sent him airborne. That incident prompted a rule change in Maverick Region. All timed sections of the course are done in Orange pylons, and all Non timed sections are done in Green pylons. That way you don't have to watch for timing lights to know where the course ends. |
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| Joseph Mills |
Apr 17 2006, 11:33 AM
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on a Sonoma diet now... Group: Members Posts: 1,482 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Oklahoma City, OK Member No.: 39 |
That is really tragic.
An underlying concept of AX is a non-threatening, safe environment. The 4 people on the course were probably corner workers and other than the starter, were at least standing next to the light poles (although there is no excuse for the guy sitting on his ass). No fire extinghuisers or red flags says it was probably not an SCCA event. You can have a safe course with light poles, but they are still an issue to be aware of and you need a minimum amount of space for them. Which they didn't have. It was the close proximity of the spectator to the course itself that was blatantly negligent. Wasn't the driver's fault. Wasn't the spectator's fault. As it has been said to many corner workers, race cars are speeding bullets. You don't have time to move out of the way, you have to stay out of the way. But still just real unfortunate. .. |
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| GeorgeRud |
Apr 17 2006, 12:18 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
It always seems that it's not the first slide that gets you, but rather the overcorrection and subsequent spin.
Above all, it's a great lesson on course design and the need for designated s spectator areas. Hope everyone survived. |
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| Mueller |
Apr 17 2006, 01:46 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 17,146 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(ClayPerrine @ Apr 17 2006, 10:20 AM) We had one at the MUSR one year. We had an AX in conjunction with the local PCA event, and a Corvette driver suffered testosterone induced brain fade. He ended up getting the car airborne, hitting a concrete filled steel pole which ripped the door skin off the right side, and backing into another concrete filled pole, which triggered the airbags. The rumor was that the car belonged to his mom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif) What was interesting about that dip was that it seemed only the 'vettes suspensions were getting "upset" at that dip...all the P-cars just floated right over it with no issues..... That was a fun trip and I had a blast driving Ed's car..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/MDB2.gif) |
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| VaccaRabite |
Apr 17 2006, 02:01 PM
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En Garde! Group: Admin Posts: 13,443 Joined: 15-December 03 From: Dallastown, PA Member No.: 1,435 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
That video has been around for a few years. I still get shivers when I see it. Actually, I get shivers when it starts cause I know whats going to happen when it ends... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
Zach |
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