Seatbelt Starter Lockout..., Factory recall |
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Seatbelt Starter Lockout..., Factory recall |
ConeDodger |
May 4 2006, 12:52 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Does anyone know what the factory fix was for the 1975 seatbelt ignition lockout? I am speaking of the system that requires you to have your seatbelt fastened before the starter will operate. There was a recall but my car was never done.
I have called Porsche and they are going to "get back to me" after they check my VIN. Sometimes the car will start and other times it doesn't with the seatbelt on or off. Anyone have a picture of what their car looks like under the passenger seat after the recall fix? |
Rusty |
May 4 2006, 01:01 AM
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Wanted: Engine case GA003709 Group: Admin Posts: 7,941 Joined: 24-December 02 From: North Alabama Member No.: 6 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
The famous seatbelt interlock relay was in the 1974 model year. However, Dave Darling once posted on Pelican that there was at least one 75 owner that had the relay on their car. Maybe Fritz had too much vissen at lunch that day.
There's a bypass that can be made under the driver's seat. Dave wrote this in 1999: QUOTE While stuck at home last week, I spent some time examining the 914 wiring diagrams in the Haynes manual. (The fever made it quite an interesting experience--one I don't recommend.) I managed to figure out a couple of things. First, I traced through the wiring related to the Infamous 74 Seatbelt Interlock Relay. I studied the differences between the Euro and US diagrams, and came to a happy conclusion. You can completely disarm the relay, and have no effect on the rest of the car, in two fairly simple steps. Step 1: Unplug the relay and throw it away. Step 2: Permanently connect together the two thick yellow wires that run to the relay's socket. If you're optimistic, you can make a small "bridge" out of heavy-gauge wire and some male spade connectors, and plug it into the correct parts of the socket. But that won't keep moisture and corrosion out very well. So if you're somewhat more realistic, you can CUT the wires off of the socket, then either use a crimp-on splice connector and electrical tape, or solder and heat-shrink tubing, to permanently connect them. No more relay--you've just removed one potential "failure point" from the starter circuit. (And we all know that it needs all the help it can get...) Hope this helps, Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
ConeDodger |
May 4 2006, 09:04 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
The famous seatbelt interlock relay was in the 1974 model year. However, Dave Darling once posted on Pelican that there was at least one 75 owner that had the relay on their car. Maybe Fritz had too much vissen at lunch that day. There's a bypass that can be made under the driver's seat. Dave wrote this in 1999: QUOTE While stuck at home last week, I spent some time examining the 914 wiring diagrams in the Haynes manual. (The fever made it quite an interesting experience--one I don't recommend.) I managed to figure out a couple of things. First, I traced through the wiring related to the Infamous 74 Seatbelt Interlock Relay. I studied the differences between the Euro and US diagrams, and came to a happy conclusion. You can completely disarm the relay, and have no effect on the rest of the car, in two fairly simple steps. Step 1: Unplug the relay and throw it away. Step 2: Permanently connect together the two thick yellow wires that run to the relay's socket. If you're optimistic, you can make a small "bridge" out of heavy-gauge wire and some male spade connectors, and plug it into the correct parts of the socket. But that won't keep moisture and corrosion out very well. So if you're somewhat more realistic, you can CUT the wires off of the socket, then either use a crimp-on splice connector and electrical tape, or solder and heat-shrink tubing, to permanently connect them. No more relay--you've just removed one potential "failure point" from the starter circuit. (And we all know that it needs all the help it can get...) Hope this helps, Rusty (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) Thanks Rusty, I figured it was simple and this sounds very simple. It definately is an issue for at least some 75 cars. It was one of the two factory recalls for the model year. The other having something to do with fuel lines. Rob |
North Bay 914 |
May 4 2006, 09:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 509 Joined: 25-January 05 Member No.: 3,504 |
Rob, you are good on the fuel lines, there are no cloth covered hoses left on your car.
Your Welcome ! Martin PS, I have seen that bypass wire, and would be super easy to make. Attached image(s) |
Rand |
May 4 2006, 10:29 AM
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Cross Member Group: Members Posts: 7,409 Joined: 8-February 05 From: OR Member No.: 3,573 Region Association: None |
My '75 had the seatbelt relay junk. I cut it all out, joined the yellow starter wire, and the brown-only grounds. Nice to have it gone.
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Cap'n Krusty |
May 4 2006, 11:02 AM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Rob, you are good on the fuel lines, there are no cloth covered hoses left on your car. Your Welcome ! Martin PS, I have seen that bypass wire, and would be super easy to make. Yellow "Scotch Lock" connector, bridging the large yellow wires at the relay. You can even leave the relay in there, if you so choose. The Cap'n |
ConeDodger |
May 5 2006, 09:24 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,588 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California |
Rob, you are good on the fuel lines, there are no cloth covered hoses left on your car. Your Welcome ! Martin PS, I have seen that bypass wire, and would be super easy to make. Martin, I knew I had no cloth fuel lines... I was just pointing out that there were two recalls for the '75. And thank you... That is a nice looking 914 in the pic. Who are those two grouchy bastards staring at the motor hole? I have not heard back from Niello Porsche. I had been hoping to be the last 914 on earth to come in for the recall but it looks like they will not be getting back to me soon. I will deal with the relay on Saturday or Sunday I guess... Starter and ignition electronic part go in then too. Rob |
ClayPerrine |
May 5 2006, 01:00 PM
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Life's been good to me so far..... Group: Admin Posts: 15,465 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
Yellow "Scotch Lock" connector, bridging the large yellow wires at the relay. You can even leave the relay in there, if you so choose. The Cap'n Cap'n!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif) I can't believe that YOU are recommending one of those POS scotchlocks. Those things cause more grief than any other electrical "repairs" than I have ever seen. I would not use one of those on a bycycle...... |
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