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> Anybody running without a rear sway bar?, How does it corner?
Aaron Cox
post May 8 2006, 12:24 PM
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i love my rear bar.....

22mm torsion bars, 225 lb springs, tarett bar up front, stock in rear..

i can use the tarett to fine tune the understeer/oversteer.....
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post May 8 2006, 12:25 PM
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Hey Aaron, any wheel spin issues?

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post May 8 2006, 12:27 PM
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QUOTE(jhadler @ May 8 2006, 11:25 AM) *

Hey Aaron, any wheel spin issues?

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havent AX'd this setup yet... but it sticks like glue..... pretty stiff, and almost no roll...

i dont think ill have any inside rear wheel lift issues.... but ill let you know.

currently it pushes, i need to back off on the front sway a tad...
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post May 8 2006, 12:34 PM
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I am currently running 23 mm torsion bars, 180lb progressive springs with Bilsteins and no sway bars. The handling is neutral to slight understeer but there is a fair amount of body roll. I am considering adding front bar and my question is how much stiffer would I need to go on rear springs? Attached Image
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post May 8 2006, 12:42 PM
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QUOTE(TGM @ May 8 2006, 11:34 AM) *

I am considering adding front bar and my question is how much stiffer would I need to go on rear springs?

depends entirely on the size of the front bar ...

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post May 8 2006, 01:22 PM
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22mm front and stock bar
180# rears with no bar
205/50/15 Falkin Aziniz on Fuchs
car is neutral
very little body roll
this is a little stiff on he street but that is a small price to pay for teh added grip
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post May 8 2006, 01:33 PM
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QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ May 8 2006, 12:22 PM) *

22mm front and stock bar
180# rears with no bar
205/50/15 Falkin Aziniz on Fuchs
car is neutral
very little body roll
this is a little stiff on he street but that is a small price to pay for teh added grip


it doesnt push with the 180's?
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post May 8 2006, 01:38 PM
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QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 8 2006, 10:42 AM) *

QUOTE(TGM @ May 8 2006, 11:34 AM) *

I am considering adding front bar and my question is how much stiffer would I need to go on rear springs?

depends entirely on the size of the front bar ...

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Thanks Andy. Let's assume the front bar would be a Tarett unit which they claim is equivalent to 22mm solid bar.
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post May 8 2006, 01:44 PM
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QUOTE(TGM @ May 8 2006, 12:38 PM) *

QUOTE(SirAndy @ May 8 2006, 10:42 AM) *

QUOTE(TGM @ May 8 2006, 11:34 AM) *

I am considering adding front bar and my question is how much stiffer would I need to go on rear springs?

depends entirely on the size of the front bar ...

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Thanks Andy. Let's assume the front bar would be a Tarett unit which they claim is equivalent to 22mm solid bar.


i have a similar setup TGM,
22tb's, 22 tarrett, 225 springs, and stock rear bar...


with 23's i think you would be pushing... maybe up the rear rate AND add a swaybar? or some combination of springs AND sway to compensate for the large front bar
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post May 8 2006, 01:46 PM
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QUOTE(TGM @ May 8 2006, 12:38 PM) *

Thanks Andy. Let's assume the front bar would be a Tarett unit which they claim is equivalent to 22mm solid bar.

i have the tarett bar and 911 torsion bars which i believe are 23mm. i used to run the 180lbs progressive springs in the rear *without* a rear sway bar and the rear was too soft. i could not even adjust the front bar, i had to run it on full soft (and still had understeer) ...

i added a stock rear sway bar and went to 250lbs straight springs in the rear. now i have the front bar right in the middle and i get just a tad of oversteer, which is gud ...
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post May 8 2006, 02:17 PM
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1970 914 with 73 2.0L

21mm Torsion bars with 21mm front sway bar
150lb springs in rear
adjustable rear spring pearchs
no rear bar
Set adjustable koni's to full firm
lowered & corner balanced
Kuhmo 205 50 15's for AXing on Keiser rims

This is my third year AXing and the first with this setup. Our last AX was during some major rain, I beat 2 of the 4 WRX's running and our Hot shoe in his street mod 1970 911. I was 1.5 sec's off TTOD and placed 10th out of 26 drivers. Not bad for using my street tires and heavy rain.

Raw results http://www.inr-scca.org/solo2/2006/2006%20...20tune_raw_.htm
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