Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
> Injector resistor pack
yarin
post May 18 2006, 02:43 PM
Post #1


'14-X'in FOOL
***

Group: Members
Posts: 988
Joined: 13-May 03
From: Guttenberg, NJ
Member No.: 693
Region Association: North East States



Does anyone know what the specs are for the injector resistor pack on a 2.0?

Impedence, wattage?

Thanks. To those who built their own resistor packs for a custom fuel injection application using stock 2.0 injectors what parts did you use?

Thanks
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
Mark Henry
post May 18 2006, 02:46 PM
Post #2


that's what I do!
***************

Group: Members
Posts: 20,065
Joined: 27-December 02
From: Port Hope, Ontario
Member No.: 26
Region Association: Canada



About 3 ohms
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
lapuwali
post May 18 2006, 03:02 PM
Post #3


Not another one!
****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 4,526
Joined: 1-March 04
From: San Mateo, CA
Member No.: 1,743



They're 3-5 ohms, typically. An injector is going to sink 2-3A, so figure on 35-40W (i.e., really big-assed ceramic resistors). I've usually seen a heatsink used.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
sean_v8_914
post May 18 2006, 03:12 PM
Post #4


Chingon 601
****

Group: Members
Posts: 4,011
Joined: 1-February 05
From: San Diego
Member No.: 3,541



2.0 D-Jet resistor pack? where is that? I have only seen the resistor pack on 1.8 L-jet
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
JFJ914
post May 18 2006, 03:13 PM
Post #5


Senior Member
***

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 813
Joined: 13-June 03
From: Alpharetta, GA
Member No.: 814
Region Association: South East States



QUOTE(sean_v8_914 @ May 18 2006, 05:12 PM) *

2.0 D-Jet resistor pack? where is that? I have only seen the resistor pack on 1.8 L-jet



It's inside the ECU for all D Jet.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
lapuwali
post May 18 2006, 03:30 PM
Post #6


Not another one!
****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 4,526
Joined: 1-March 04
From: San Mateo, CA
Member No.: 1,743



This is for Megasquirt. He's using 2.0 injectors (low-impedance) and was using the MS PWM feature, but now suspects it's causing problems, so he's moving to a resistor pack instead.

L-Jet runs an external resistor pack. D-Jet appears to do current limiting in the ECU, but it may not be via bulk resistors.

User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
mightyohm
post May 18 2006, 04:19 PM
Post #7


Advanced Member
****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 2,277
Joined: 16-January 03
From: Seattle, WA
Member No.: 162
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



The resistors inside the ECU are about 6 ohms and look like 10-30W, heatsunk to the case.

In my MS install I used 8 ohm 25W aluminum body resistors because I found them cheap at my local surplus electronics store.
I don't think the exact value is super critical as long as it's 5-10 ohms.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yarin
post May 18 2006, 04:58 PM
Post #8


'14-X'in FOOL
***

Group: Members
Posts: 988
Joined: 13-May 03
From: Guttenberg, NJ
Member No.: 693
Region Association: North East States



Thanks guys.. i'll see what i can find.

It's tough trying to get this project going without knowing if my injectors are good or not. I had them cleaned and checked, but turns out one was stuck closed and one stuck open. Who knows about the rest. I found 4 more 2.0 injectors, untested though.

I'm looking for 4 known good 1.7L injectors. Anyone got any to sell?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
lapuwali
post May 18 2006, 05:05 PM
Post #9


Not another one!
****

Group: Benefactors
Posts: 4,526
Joined: 1-March 04
From: San Mateo, CA
Member No.: 1,743



Doesn't speak well for the injector clean/test services when you use them and they send back injectors that still don't work.

I have a set of 2.0 injectors in unknown condition (never tried them, they came with a pile of parts). If you can't assemble a usable set from the 8 you have, I'd be willing to sell you these. Perhaps you need to try a different injector service. Did you use RC or someone else?
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yarin
post May 18 2006, 07:07 PM
Post #10


'14-X'in FOOL
***

Group: Members
Posts: 988
Joined: 13-May 03
From: Guttenberg, NJ
Member No.: 693
Region Association: North East States



QUOTE(lapuwali @ May 18 2006, 07:05 PM) *

Doesn't speak well for the injector clean/test services when you use them and they send back injectors that still don't work.

I have a set of 2.0 injectors in unknown condition (never tried them, they came with a pile of parts). If you can't assemble a usable set from the 8 you have, I'd be willing to sell you these. Perhaps you need to try a different injector service. Did you use RC or someone else?


There is a chance the injector driver might have damaged them. I did drive the car a bit and idle for at least 1/2 hr with 2 injectors on the bad channel. They might have been overheated, who knows. I'll send them back for testing. I still trust the service, i just dont trust my setup. Thanks for the offer, i'll let you know what happens.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
crash914
post May 22 2006, 01:50 PM
Post #11


its a mystery to me
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,826
Joined: 17-March 03
From: Marriottsville, MD
Member No.: 434
Region Association: MidAtlantic Region



Yarin,

I used i think 10 ohm resistors about 10 watt. Looks like ballast resistors.

mounted them on the other half of the lid I had for my relay box.
I don't think that it is too critical...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yarin
post May 22 2006, 02:51 PM
Post #12


'14-X'in FOOL
***

Group: Members
Posts: 988
Joined: 13-May 03
From: Guttenberg, NJ
Member No.: 693
Region Association: North East States



i'm not going to jump to any conclusions until I can get the thing idling properly... BUT after some rework on the main board and initial testing it looks like I solved the injector driver issue. I replaced one of the 3904 transistors on the PWM active flyback section because an impedence check didn't match from ch1 to ch2. There might have been a bad solder joint, bridge, or flux residue.

I started the car up and tried disconnecting one injector at a time. all caused rpm to drop as expected.

i'm going to hold off on injector resistors for now. but just incase i do have two 15ohm 50watt resistors that i can put in parallel and use for all 4 injectors.

i'm going to vegas for a week so i'm going to try freshly cleaned and tested injectors and new plugs when i get back and see where i am at. right now i dont have a consistent idle or AFR. also the timing light doesnt fire consistently, i believe on one or two plugs.

i'm getting closer.....
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 17th May 2024 - 02:32 PM