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Castellated nut on rear axle |
jsf322 |
May 22 2006, 10:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 1-December 05 From: Baldwin, New York Member No.: 5,220 |
Is the castellated nut on the rear axle a normal or reverse threaded nut? I can't get mine loose. I applied the handbrake and left the transimission in gear and then applied a large breaker bar and cannot get it loose even after 1/2 hour of soaking it with penetrating solvent.
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Spoke |
May 22 2006, 10:35 AM
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Jerry Group: Members Posts: 6,978 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None |
Normal threads. Maybe you need a bigger breaker bar? Seriously though, those nuts can be amazingly hard to remove. Try the solvent for a couple of days. If you can't move it, maybe try some heat on the nut. Someone may want to chime in whether heat would be bad for that area. I don't think so but you never know.
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Aaron Cox |
May 22 2006, 10:39 AM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
they are normal nuts. pulled the cotter pin?
they are torqued to over 200 ft lbs.... and will require some grunt to remove. i have good luck with impacts.... and a regular socket will shatter.....with an impact..... |
jsf322 |
May 22 2006, 10:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 1-December 05 From: Baldwin, New York Member No.: 5,220 |
I think I may need to let it soke for a few days. I even put a 4 foot long pipe on the end of my rachet and it wouldn't move. I started to overcome the handbrake and move the wheel with that. I was hoping to get it out today to inspect my CV joints and wheel bearing, but that is looking like it may need to wait. Thanks for the reply.
John |
gopack |
May 22 2006, 10:46 AM
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CHEESEHEAD in CA, MARK Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 7-August 04 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 2,472 Region Association: Northern California |
I had to use a 4 foot cheater on the end of a 18 inch breaker bar! I also used a steel bar propped between 2 lug bolts to keep the wheel from turning as i JUMPED on the 4 ft bar! There is a chance those things havent been off for decades, AND the torque spec is pretty large for them as I recall!.
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URY914 |
May 22 2006, 11:12 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,614 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Mark's diagram is what I did.
Just be careful. |
914Sixer |
May 22 2006, 11:15 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
The above methods are good. If you have a inpact air wrench it will have to have at least 400 lbs of torque to move the nut. Factory torque for the axle nut is 240 ft lbs.
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So.Cal.914 |
May 22 2006, 11:20 AM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
When that nut lets go you could be in for a wild ride. So keep you hands were you can brace yourself for impact. And I use a 1/2" breaker bar, 3" extention w/ a 6' piece of pipe. Just makes it easer, Good luck.
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Joe Bob |
May 22 2006, 11:56 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
If the engine is still in the car....put the wheel back on, drop it back to the pavement and use a cheater bar/pipe on the 3/4 inch breaker bar and socket.....put the bar at 9 o'clock, both hands on the top or targa bar and jump on the cheater/breaker bar....if your too light...get one of your beer guzzling friends....should go C R A C K and break loose.
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jsf322 |
May 22 2006, 12:15 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 1-December 05 From: Baldwin, New York Member No.: 5,220 |
Can you believe I just broke my 1/2 inch drive rachet trying to get that thing of. I snapped it right where the socket attaches. Guess Sears is replacing that one. Now I have to get another and try again. I think I will resort to an impact wrench. I just need to borrow it or buy one.
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Aaron Cox |
May 22 2006, 12:20 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
Can you believe I just broke my 1/2 inch drive rachet trying to get that thing of. I snapped it right where the socket attaches. Guess Sears is replacing that one. Now I have to get another and try again. I think I will resort to an impact wrench. I just need to borrow it or buy one. thats why they invented breaker bars.... shouldnt be using a ratchet.... |
jsf322 |
May 22 2006, 12:21 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 1-December 05 From: Baldwin, New York Member No.: 5,220 |
I know but I got too lazy to go to the basement and now I am paying for it.
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GeorgeRud |
May 22 2006, 12:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,725 Joined: 27-July 05 From: Chicagoland Member No.: 4,482 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
Ditto, you will break rachets easily - use a breaker bar with a 4 ft. pipe over it. By keeping the bar fairly horizontal, you can place all your weight on the end of the bar and get quite a lot of torque on the nut. When it lets go, you will only drop down the 10 - 12 inches. Once loose, they come off easily, but be sure you have removed the cotter pin.
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gopack |
May 22 2006, 12:38 PM
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CHEESEHEAD in CA, MARK Group: Members Posts: 744 Joined: 7-August 04 From: Folsom, CA Member No.: 2,472 Region Association: Northern California |
When I did it, the drivers side went easily once I figured out all the angles. When I did the passenger side, I almost pulled the car off the jack stands (no front suspension , and no interior, so it was very light in the front). Almost had a heart attack when the nose of the car headed for the garage ceiling! I was so lucky that it didn't slide backwards off of the rear jack stands!!! I finally managed without launching the car by getting someone to sit in the front trunk.
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jhadler |
May 22 2006, 12:40 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
The drawing Mark put up is it. I would say don't -jump- on the cheater bar though. Just get a really long and rigid bar, and some good heavy weight at the end. Jumping on it could have some er...painfull repurcussions... Not to mention concussions...
Oh yeah, that ratchet is not the tool of choice. Always use a breaker bar. Sears will -always- replace those (BTDT), and they are sometimes hesitant to replace ratchet drivers (BTDT too). Basically, anything with moving parts may not be covered by sears.... -Josh2 |
nomore9one4 |
May 22 2006, 12:46 PM
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Member of the Eastcoast Thread Killers Club Group: Members Posts: 2,666 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Pittsburgh,Pa.15237 Member No.: 14 Region Association: None |
The safest bet is a impact gun. Ask me how I know?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)
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jhadler |
May 22 2006, 12:51 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
Okay... tell us? Was the body damage yours or the cars? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif)
-Josh2 |
jsf322 |
May 22 2006, 01:31 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 83 Joined: 1-December 05 From: Baldwin, New York Member No.: 5,220 |
Well I just got my ratchet replaced by Sears. That was too easy. I also bought a little bigger breaker bar than I had. Now we will see what I can do. Finding a 30mm impact socket right now is my problem with using an impact wrench. I can borrow the wrench from my father but I don't have a big enough socket and there is no store close enough to get one immediately.
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nomore9one4 |
May 22 2006, 01:45 PM
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Member of the Eastcoast Thread Killers Club Group: Members Posts: 2,666 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Pittsburgh,Pa.15237 Member No.: 14 Region Association: None |
Okay... tell us? Was the body damage yours or the cars? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) -Josh2 Actually it was the garage door. Luckily it was in very poor shape and it was going to be replaced anyways or thats what I keep telling myself! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ph34r.gif) |
914Sixer |
May 22 2006, 01:58 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 8,882 Joined: 17-January 05 From: San Angelo Texas Member No.: 3,457 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Harbor Freight has a complete set of IMPACT sockets in 1/2" for under $20. The size ranges from 10mm-36mm. You can beat the hell out of them and they do not break like Sears.
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