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> Blank Body, Is it real?
Pat Garvey
post May 24 2006, 07:09 AM
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I'm just curious.........

The parts manual lists parts 914.501.003.11 & 914.501.004.11 as "blank body, primed, sound-proofed & sealed".

I recognize that these parts would long ago be NLA, but has anyone every hears of such a part being ordered? Maybe to build a racer?
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post May 24 2006, 07:17 AM
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Yes, there were real. I know of one such being ordered to rebody a six way back when. The numbers on it are truely different, both the fender 'VIN' and the trunk 'Chassis #' make no sense compared to every other number I know of.

What complicates things for that particular car is that the original body was not destroyed as it was supposed to be. Years later it was resurrected as a /4, then reconverted to a six. So now there are two bodies around with the 'same VIN'.
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post May 24 2006, 07:26 AM
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Is that the Dave O car?
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post May 24 2006, 07:30 AM
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QUOTE(Jeff Bowlsby @ May 24 2006, 05:26 AM) *

Is that the Dave O car?

No, Dave F.
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post May 24 2006, 08:54 AM
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sometimes known as a "body in white"...just a chassis painted in basic white, an option for the race teams to build up a car without having to purchase a complete car just to tear it apart....

whether or not anyone did this with the 914 I do not know...common with 911s
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post May 24 2006, 01:24 PM
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ok, this begs the question ...


anyone tried to order one lately? i'm serious ...

i have always been amazed about the amount of stuff you still can get from the factory if you just simply ask ...
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post May 24 2006, 01:31 PM
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I hope you post a picture when yours arrives, Andy.
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post May 24 2006, 01:35 PM
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There were 2 left as of around... 5 years ago? (according to AA @ the time)


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post May 24 2006, 02:59 PM
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My dad looked into a blank body back in 1984, but was told that they were NLA back then by Stoddard.

This was after I wrecked that car. The car got straightened, a new firewall, trunk floor and a new rear panel. It is still our track car today.

I don't believe half the crap that comes from AA.
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post May 24 2006, 03:03 PM
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Porsche says that they are unavailable. The E code before part number means part no longer available


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post May 24 2006, 03:04 PM
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I just searched Stoddard's site using both part numbers and came up empty...
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post May 24 2006, 03:20 PM
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The parts manual lists parts 914.501.003.11 & 914.501.004.11..


The part numbers are still listed in the dealer price guide with list pricing at $7091.41 and $9284.75
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post May 24 2006, 03:30 PM
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Maybe it's time for the factory to produce a few so dealers can have one or two on their "shelves". How fast would they be snapped up? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)
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post May 24 2006, 07:45 PM
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QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ May 24 2006, 01:30 PM) *

Maybe it's time for the factory to produce a few so dealers can have one or two on their "shelves". How fast would they be snapped up? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

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I, personally would pay dearly for one! I'd love to have a non-Vin'd 914 to whatever I want with. If I really needed a VIN, I know a guy down south(& most of you know him too) who has cut the VIN plates out of a bunch of 914's he's cut up for parts. Wouldn't it be great start with a frsh palate?

Yep, find me one & I'm in - hang the price!

Gimmee, gimmee!
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post May 24 2006, 08:00 PM
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In the Brit car world, there's an outfit called British Motor Heritage that bought up the tooling for the MGB, the MG Midget, and the Mini bodyshells. They produce them in reasonable numbers, and pretty good prices. Last time I looked, a complete Mini bodyshell was around $7K. However, all of these cars were produced in far greater numbers than the 914, so there's likely to be more demand for replacement shells.

If Karmann were willing to give up the tooling, and a supply of steel could be obtained, I'm sure new shells could be produced. Given the relative complexity, I'd guess they'd be quite a bit more expensive than the Mini shells, which are very simple and very easy to manufacture. Wild guess is they'd be at least $15K apiece. Seeing as you can't even GIVE away a fairly rust-free bare tub, I'd wonder at the size of the market.
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post May 25 2006, 02:09 AM
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You can GIVE me all the rust free tubs you can come up with!
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post May 25 2006, 05:28 AM
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I don't know where the "fairly rust-free bare tubs" would come from. There are enough parts to go onto these tubs that there is no need to strip a good tub for the parts attached. Perhaps 20 years ago some of the tubs I stripped could have been repaired, but not today. Mostly what we find today are piles of rust, in a vaugely familiar shape, covering the remains of suspension and drive train.

Even so, a free tub in California would cost a lot to deliver to our 'neck of the woods'. I carefully considered Kelly's /6 tub for $500. To just get it home would have cost a week or 10 days of travel expenses.
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post May 25 2006, 07:15 AM
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Reproduced bare tubs are getting alot more traction these days.

Several years ago,I thought it was kinda cool that you could buy a "Brand New"

MGB tub for $3995.00 fron Victoria British.

Then,along comes Dynacorn reproducing the '69 Camaro body,complete shell for
$10,000.00.

Now Dynacorn is gonna reproduce the '68 Mustang body.

I'm not holding my breath,but it could happen if there is enough interest to justify
the tooling and costs,just look at the 914 steel repo flares.



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post May 25 2006, 07:58 AM
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I've been thinking about this before, and I think it's possible.
There were a lot of 914's made, but think of how many are left today.
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post May 25 2006, 08:02 AM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ May 24 2006, 06:45 PM) *

QUOTE(1970 Neun vierzehn @ May 24 2006, 01:30 PM) *

Maybe it's time for the factory to produce a few so dealers can have one or two on their "shelves". How fast would they be snapped up? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif)

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I, personally would pay dearly for one! I'd love to have a non-Vin'd 914 to whatever I want with. If I really needed a VIN, I know a guy down south(& most of you know him too) who has cut the VIN plates out of a bunch of 914's he's cut up for parts. Wouldn't it be great start with a frsh palate?

Yep, find me one & I'm in - hang the price!

Gimmee, gimmee!



Too bad the swapping of VINs is as illegal as hell.

Based on my experience as a licensed dealer....you would have to get a State assigned VIN #. Depending on the State you would have to comply with the in use smog laws unless there was an exemption.

CA exempts 500 a year....I have one in my 356 Speedster clone.

Carrol Shelby tired to resurrect some old Cobra frames that had previously assigned CA VIN # and sell them as true 65s....somehow he got away with it. He claimed that they were in a lost wharehouse that burned or some such crap....they went for 500K+.....
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