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> rear suspension bushing replacement time.
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post May 27 2006, 11:20 AM
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I noticed the passenger tire has been rubbing on the inner fenderwell quite a bit.

Yesterday it got worse (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

At the track on one specific hard left sweeper it was rubbing so much that the car was filling with tire smoke.

I looked under the car and it appear as is the passenger side inboard bushing has jumped ship. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

I will have to repair it before the end of next weekend, as I have a DE at Sear Point on the 5th.


Any pointers or step by steps?
I already have the Weltmiester hard bushings that were to be installed anyway.

Haynes doesn't touch this one.


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post May 27 2006, 12:17 PM
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burn baby! burn!
when you install the new bushings, make sure the shaft (slightly) portrudes the bushings, so when you torque it down, the arm is locked by the shaft, not by the bushings
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post May 27 2006, 12:24 PM
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Thanks.

I was talking to Brad yesterday before he left and he invited me to trailer down to the "tub pull" and do the job there.

I was going to, but my truck is doing this stall thing right now and my 70,000 mile warranty expires in 40 miles. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif)

I *need* the dealer to look at this before I leave town again. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif)


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post May 27 2006, 02:32 PM
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Go for the roller bearings while you are there...that is if you can get a set from Mueller. They are awesome on rough AX courses, ask me how I know!

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post May 27 2006, 02:37 PM
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do it...and let us know the improvement you have over the rubber bushings...
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post May 27 2006, 02:39 PM
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You will need to re-align the rear wheels after the repair.

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post May 27 2006, 02:43 PM
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do it...and let us know the improvement you have over the rubber bushings...


There is a HUGE improvement over the rubber bushings. The roller bearing allow the wheel to travel and remain in contact with the surface even in bumpy conditions. The AX venue up here is very bumpy and even with a stiff car, the roller bearings are very compliant.

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post May 27 2006, 02:45 PM
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post May 27 2006, 02:47 PM
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I'm not going to use the roller bearings right now.

I have very little time to get this back together.

I noticed the suspension console is tearing also.
So today is the day I replace my stolen welder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

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post May 27 2006, 02:52 PM
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I marked the mounting location in several places so I can get it right back to where it was.

If it tracks funny, I'll get it re-alligned.
There was crazy amounts of slop in the trailing arm before I removed it and yet I was still able to produce my best lap times at TH yet. 2:19 going over the top at 5.


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post May 27 2006, 03:09 PM
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Maybe I should take it over to freind's shop at the track and try to get more negative camber anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


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post May 27 2006, 06:45 PM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ May 27 2006, 10:45 PM) *

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Funny, but it was aimed at your old bushings...
That's how you get them out (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post May 27 2006, 10:47 PM
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ouch...
2 big topics.

-suspension console
-rear bushings

both are the type of things that nee attention to detail.
alignment and bracing for the console are my reccomendations
you can accomplish this in time if you have to.
not something you want to cut corners on really....

get to wrenching!
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post May 27 2006, 10:53 PM
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Mike said he's not doing any more sets...
Mine were the last set..(putting em in tomorrow)
(I think... I KNOW he's not doing any more fronts)

Elephant bushings are a good deal...

Just make sure (as stated) the bushing doesnt protrude farter than the shaft.. cus they dont give...
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post May 28 2006, 08:53 AM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ May 27 2006, 02:09 PM) *

Maybe I should take it over to freind's shop at the track and try to get more negative camber anyway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)


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More negative camber???

The rubbing is caused by:

Insufficient clearance (2 lbs of shit in a 1 lb bag.
Negative camber (however it got there)
tire deflection
All of the above

You will need a realignment.
Plastic bushings sux.

If I was going to reweld cracks (tears) in the console, I would (and have)
seal weld the perimiter of the ears at a minimum....nice smooth welds....grind as necessary to achive this. I'm convinced that this has kept my inner ears intact
thru 4-5 seasons of AX on gnarly courses....using big stickey buns.
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post May 28 2006, 12:50 PM
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This is Trek you're talking to... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)
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post May 28 2006, 01:16 PM
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If I was going to reweld cracks (tears) in the console, I would (and have)
seal weld the perimiter of the ears at a minimum....nice smooth welds....grind as necessary to achive this. I'm convinced that this has kept my inner ears intact
thru 4-5 seasons of AX on gnarly courses....using big stickey buns.


might yo have a detailed pic of your seam welding job? I'm going to be realigning my rear suspension soon and would love to kill 2 birds with some shims and one welder. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post May 28 2006, 04:37 PM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ May 28 2006, 12:50 PM) *

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not something you want to cut corners on really....


This is Trek you're talking to... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol3.gif)


spent yesterday on elk island..
just got rained and hailed on outside of sundance.

whats up with the weather here?



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post May 28 2006, 05:16 PM
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Just did my passenger side because I was losing a bearing.
10K miles on Poly bushings just popped the out and pushed them in the new arm.
used old shaft because it is polished and fitted.

Added another shim to TAKE camber out and put it on the road.
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post May 28 2006, 05:27 PM
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It is...

Trying to finish tonight or tomorrow night.

Next time the engine comes out I will do a "real" repair.

I welded up the tears and such...all with the trailing arm attached.
Also tucked the caliper up in the fenderwell so I didn't make a brake fluid mess.

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