 My First 914 and looking to stiffen it up for autocross! |
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| Virgil |
 Jun 19 2006, 06:51 AM
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I plan on doing something with the suspension at the very least, motor is fine for quite a while (easily at least 90-100hp to the wheels I would imagine, and thats all it needs to get going really. Got to love momentum racers because they teach you a lot.) I want to kill some of the body roll and make it a bit stiffer chassis wise. I am curious why there aren't any shock tower bars made for these cars? I am assuming the body panneling eliminates the possiblity of this?
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| Joe Ricard |
Jun 19 2006, 09:20 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
No need to shock tower bracing
I was thinking what is legal for stock class 914. You can modify the exhaust (a little) you can put in Koni sports You can run DOT R tires You can add a front sway bar That's a hell of a good place to run. Would you be competative against a 10th anniversary Miata?....... I don't know Ya know seeing that the 914-6 got moved from A stock to B stock you would think the 914-4 would get a bump down too. AND all 3 cars are listed together 1.7 1.8 2.0 Like that's fair. |
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| grantsfo |
Jun 19 2006, 11:01 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Virgil @ Jun 19 2006, 05:51 AM)  I plan on doing something with the suspension at the very least, motor is fine for quite a while (easily at least 90-100hp to the wheels I would imagine, and thats all it needs to get going really. Got to love momentum racers because they teach you a lot.) I want to kill some of the body roll and make it a bit stiffer chassis wise. I am curious why there aren't any shock tower bars made for these cars? I am assuming the body panneling eliminates the possiblity of this? I think you will find that biggest flex point is the tub itself. I would focus my stiffening efforts there first. |
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| jhadler |
Jun 19 2006, 12:46 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) With pretty much what has been said...
Tires. Nothin' happens without 'em. I don't know what your beef with Kumho is, but right now, they're arguably the hottest tire out there for Autox. Alignment. I put this at #2, if you don't have a good alignment to start with, you may go wild with suspension changes to adjust the handling, when all it needs is a good alignment. A proper alignment can make WORLDS of difference in how a car handles. Suspension. Start with some good shocks and a front bar. If you need more, the sky can be the limit. I've found the following to offer a very good balance, and great handling. 21 mm torsion bars 22 mm front sway bar 200# coil springs All the rest of the stuff seems over the top. But if you're willing to throw a mint and a half at the car, why use glass flares? Get steel flares. And why the welty short shifter? Get the Rennshifter. And if the motor was recently built, why get motor parts? I say, tires, shocks, and alignment. Then go have fun for a while... After that, then start looking at more go-fsat goodies... -Josh2 |
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| Virgil |
Jun 20 2006, 02:32 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 7-June 06 From: South Korea Member No.: 6,182 |
Pretty much what I have seen is a 22m swaybar in the front and the rear left stock, more money saved in my opinion. Koni shocks allow for some play- sinched down for AX and loss(er, I like my cars tight, never mind the bumps) up for cruising.
I have seen the chassis stiffener kits for the tub, I am just concerned about the installation, I am assuming it must be sanded and welded in (der on the welded part) but I would bet that means having it repainted. Also, found a good way to take car of the seats and making me stick in them, I know HKS makes a seatbelt lock for standard 3-point safety belts which helps hold u in place on a preadjusted lenght of seat belt, not a bucket seat but cheap and better then nothing. |
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| jhadler |
Jun 20 2006, 12:42 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
QUOTE(Virgil @ Jun 20 2006, 12:32 AM) Also, found a good way to take car of the seats and making me stick in them, I know HKS makes a seatbelt lock for standard 3-point safety belts which helps hold u in place on a preadjusted lenght of seat belt, not a bucket seat but cheap and better then nothing. A harness bar and a set of real harnesses will do far more than any seatbelt lock. Tried 'em all. They're all lame, harnesses are the way to do it... -Josh2 |
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| Joe Ricard |
Jun 20 2006, 03:23 PM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
For harness bars there needs to be a way to correctly tend the sholder belts. Stock seat make this difficult.
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| jhadler |
Jun 20 2006, 03:30 PM
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Long term tinkerer... Group: Members Posts: 1,879 Joined: 7-April 03 From: Lyons, CO Member No.: 529 |
An "H" strap will do. Many sanctioning bodies will accept an "H" strap.
-Josh2 |
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| Virgil |
Jun 21 2006, 06:35 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 66 Joined: 7-June 06 From: South Korea Member No.: 6,182 |
I will look in to the harness bar, anywere I can find the Koni's for a decent price?
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