Is this a 1973?, Shouln't the bumpers be chrome? Options

[Grelber]

Sorry, a real Newbie question. Is this a '73 as advertised? Shouldn't the bumpers be chrome?





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[drewvw]

it could be. The car looks like it was redone, maybe the PO put late model bumpers on there.

whats the vin on the windshield say? if it starts with 473 then its a 73

[Bleyseng]

Its a 1.7l so it didn't come with the 2.0l package like the appearance and sport packages.

The stock 1.7l came without these ie: no targa vinyl, steel wheels etc..but you could add the wheels at extra cost.

[Grelber]

Many thanks. The car is a 3 hour drive from me, and I have to get the VIN next week. My concern is that this is a Louisiana car, being sold in Oklahoma. Oklahoma is one of the few states that you can "wash" a salvage title into a clean one very easily. This might be a storm car being passed off as solid.

[Bleyseng]

Look at under the battery tray for rust, behind the rockers etc.

As for it being under water, pull the carpet off the long and look in the access holes to see if there is silt laying in there under the heater tubes.

PM Jim Chambers about cleaning up a car if its been swamped as he did the LE car.


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[Grelber]

Look at under the battery tray for rust, behind the rockers etc.

As for it being under water, pull the carpet off the long and look in the access holes to see if there is silt laying in there under the heater tubes.

PM Jim Chambers about cleaning up a car if its been swamped as he did the LE car.


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The owner says he has documentation that the car was in Oklahoma since early 2005, so wasn't in the storm. (I'll still check). The VIN is: 4732926011, so I guess that does make it a '73, just without the apprearance group goodies.

Many thanks for the info.

[GWN7]

It could also have fiberglass bumpers. Painted black. The tops look kind of shiny to be the rubber ones. Hard to tell from the pictures.

[rwjames]

It could be fiberglass bumpers, but I believe they look like steel. It has the bumper guards on the front which would probably end up cracking the fiberglass and normally someone wouldn't put them back on, especially on fiberglass bumpers. Also, to me it looks like the rear is two pieces not one-piece fiberglass, but you never know.

I once owned a super nice original 73 2.0 with the factory appearance group delete. It had the black bumpers, black roll bar trim, steel wheels and no vinyl on the roll bar. So it all fits together on this car as legitimately original.

From the pictures, it looks like a pretty nice 914.

Good luck!

[wilchek]

the car is correct. the 73 came with black painted or chrome. The 73 had nipples in the front only. the 74 had front and back. Looks like a nice car. Check out under the battery, under the rocker covers, jack points and the rear suspension ears is a good start. Car looks to be square from the pictures u posted. How much??

[Grelber]

He's asking $8500.00, which seems to be way too much. According to him, it was appraised at $9600. without the Fuch's.

I've since seen about 30 pictures of it, and it's pretty nice, except the rear bumper has been hit and will have to be replaced eventually.

[kpex914]

Its a 1.7l so it didn't come with the 2.0l package like the appearance and sport packages.

The stock 1.7l came without these ie: no targa vinyl, steel wheels etc..but you could add the wheels at extra cost.

I have a 1973 1.7l with the targa vinyl and it had fuchs look-a-like hub caps. What you said isnt true then.

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[wilchek]

Sounds a little high on the price. Appraisal is for insurance only and does not dictate market. If the hit was that hard it may have done more damage which would bring the price into the 6000 range. These cars don't fair to good when hit and it is not so easy to get the work done as most body guys don't want to touch old cars. Check it out in person and offer what it is worth to you

[Grelber]

Here's a picture of the damage:



How much is a new bumper, especially if I put on the chrome?

[Pat Garvey]

Here's a picture of the damage:



How much is a new bumper, especially if I put on the chrome?

Is it me, or does the "bumper" look fine? Bumper top is toast - don't think I've ever seen one do that!
Not that the bumper top is el-cheapo, but it sure isn't as bad as having to replace both. From the outside it looks like a decent car, though pricey. He can ask 'till he's blue in the face, but will still own the car at that price, with the bumper top problem.

Need more photos of interior & engine area, but it looks worth pursuing.

[Grelber]

Don't have any of the engine (yet), but here's the interior shots:

[GWN7]

As Pat said, strange looking bumper top. It looks like it was coated with something. You would need pictures of the metal part of bumper from the side angles to tell if it is bent.

As to prices if your replacing both bumpers with chrome ones and their tops, your looking at $1200 for all 4 pieces. Figure $300 each and look for deals.

[wilchek]

if the engine and tran and square and no strutrual rust issues i would pay around 6K, but pictures don't tell the whole story. Car looks correct and mostly original. which is not an easy find anymore. Interior is correct and appears to be mostly original except the shift knob, floor mats, radio, and speakers. Dash has some major cracks which will need a cover or new dash. cover looks OK and is 100.00. New dash, well good luck finding one worth the effort of the swap. However, you still need to really go over this car for rust, I am almost certain that it has had a respray and you will always find rust somewhere.

[wilchek]

just saw that the sill plate, was plastic. I think those may have been changed, but as the car is a late year 73 they may be original. My 73 which is in the 9000 range has metal(crome) sill plate (door jam). I thought that the plastic was not used until 74 or 75??? Maybe someone can chime in on this

[Grelber]

The seller is the original owner, and has kept it in original shape. He faxed me a bill from Auto Atlanta for nearly $8k in 2001 for restoration work.

He still wants too much, tho.

[drewvw]

8500 is too much for a 1.7 IMHO...