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> OT: Guess what Alpha's making today, These are parts from work.
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post Jun 30 2006, 03:01 PM
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Yeheheheheeeeee.

More shiny parts. These ARE automotive parts. But you have to guess what they are exactly.

I'll post one picture. You guys take a swing. Miss for a while. Then I post another picture.


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post Jun 30 2006, 03:03 PM
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carb spacer with NOS spray machined it - NOx lines run into the rear sides of it.
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post Jun 30 2006, 03:07 PM
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You f#$%ing bastard!

Yeah..... For a Ford.

Nitrous express. I was kinda worried that showing the little holes would give it away.


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post Jun 30 2006, 03:11 PM
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Man, it seems like the first guess is almost always right on the "guess" threads. If it makes you feel better, I still don't know what it is even tho he guessed it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Jun 30 2006, 03:14 PM
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We just got an order from Heads By Paul for 250 of these suckers. The NO2 runs in from one side and the gasoline runs in from the other side. The spray holes spray the gas from the bottom holes and the nitro in such a fashion to assist with vaporizing the gas.
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post Jun 30 2006, 03:16 PM
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It's one of the primary components for adding nitrous oxide to a ford v-8.

Which reminds me, I need to grab a scrapped one for a buddy's TVR Griffin.
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post Jun 30 2006, 03:16 PM
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It looked like a dual plane spacer immediately and I was just getting ready to respond when I noticed the little holes and felt somewhat confident you were making sprayers. NEX... used to sell a lot of their kits when they first started about 10yrs ago now. I think my old boss was one of the early adopters of selling their stuff...

Why is it specifically for a Ford? I would think the 4-bolt pattern is just Holley pattern and would work on any manifold (single or dual plane) with a standard (obviously not Dominator) Holley flange?

edit - Alpha, you guys should check out a Sheppard brand phenolic spacer design - you will see there is a slight taper from top to bottom (opening up slightly as you move from carb to intake). This makes more power and may help create a good customer relation with NEX should you add this feature. My spacer on the Chevy is pretty radical - slight taper, psuedo pattern that almost looks like an hour-glass all custom ground from a simple alum spacer like the one you show (but single plane as I don't run nitrous like that). It was good for 13HP over the standard spacer!
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post Jun 30 2006, 03:19 PM
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It won't fit on a chevy. Already tried.

Edit: So, wait. Is the taper opening down or opening up. Opening up would give it a venturi effect, which helps our cars a lot.

I'm not sure that it would help our relations very much. I'm not in much of a position to suggest it either. This part was contracted from Heads By Paul, I don't know that company's relationship to NEx. But I do know that it is an NEx part. The sample parts say NEx. Parent company mayber? I don't know.

We do a lot of work for Arlen Ness. And he absolutely wants nothing to do with anyone else's ideas on anything.
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post Jun 30 2006, 03:23 PM
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manifolds dictate carb....
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post Jun 30 2006, 04:12 PM
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QUOTE(alpha434 @ Jun 30 2006, 02:19 PM) *

It won't fit on a chevy. Already tried.

Edit: So, wait. Is the taper opening down or opening up. Opening up would give it a venturi effect, which helps our cars a lot.

I don't have a picture of my spacer - top secret (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) . If you ever get a chance to see a Sheppard spacer you will see what I mean... somewhat irrelevant at this point if you can't make suggestions anyway.
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I'm not sure that it would help our relations very much. I'm not in much of a position to suggest it either. This part was contracted from Heads By Paul, I don't know that company's relationship to NEx. But I do know that it is an NEx part. The sample parts say NEx. Parent company mayber? I don't know.

means he took an NEX part and had you copy it. NEX is a separate company. He is just ripping off another company's design, which may or may not have been copied as well. Standard practice in the Hot Rod world and why I gave up on designing trick parts - we had shit copied by Chinese importers to the point they used the exact same part number, label, and color of vacuum wrapping materials (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) It costs more to patent and defend it than to just move on and accept that no matter how creative you are, you have about a 6mo. window of opportunity to capitalize on that invention. Then the Aussies and Chinese start copying it and selling it for less than it is worth it to you to make. Sure the quality is about 1/2 of yours, but most people are stupid to what is and isn't quality and just see price.
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We do a lot of work for Arlen Ness. And he absolutely wants nothing to do with anyone else's ideas on anything.

Probably hears a billion stupid ideas everyday and just doesn't care to listen for that one needle in the haystack. He is busy, and rich, so probably doesn't care if it can be the absolute best, just as long as it sells by the dozens. Can't say I really blame him - he has put in the time and effort to be where he is and probably figures all his other ideas worked good enough to be at this point in his life. I am wearing my Arlen Ness T-shirt right now in fact. Nice new facility and he was also nice enough to come down and meet me when I asked if I could get an autograph and say "Hi". I saw Corey in a meeting so he didn't come down, but again, they are busy and he was cool enough to waste his time on a guy gawking at his display of customs and buying a T.
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post Jun 30 2006, 05:38 PM
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Back a few years ago when I started this conquest of the automotive world, I had a mentor that designed a carb spacer with four holes and each hole is a venturi. He ran it a few times back in NASCAR Grand American (old school Busch class). NASCAR took it away and wouldn't give it back said they didn't like the way ot looked. Tommy told me it was a great spacer. Really put some punch back in the mid range.

But yeah Tim is right with the tapered spacer. Same effect. It also has the effect of increasing plenum volumn and straightening the shot from the carb to the runner.
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post Jul 4 2006, 10:55 AM
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at 250 units, it might be worth having it cast (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)


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alpha, how does the MIC6 machine compared to 6061??
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