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> two more questions really just two more, wierd tank epoxy
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post Jul 12 2006, 03:51 PM
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checked the return hole ,it goes through. but i don't have one of the socks. unless it fell in the tank when i took out the lines. how important is it? bought a new fuel test guage other one fell into a wall. answer to the dr's question car would lose power @ 4000 rpm's but pressure was @31psi. did valves got a different pump and car ran rich, lots of black smoke but lots of power red line in every gear but very low idle and stalling checked pressure it was 70 plus. then could't get it started again.
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post Jul 12 2006, 03:55 PM
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Ya sure, "it tripped."

You do not have to run with a sock, but IIRC the spacer that the bottom of it provides, or an analog, is necessary. Since you have not reported fuel leaks you are probably fine, but if you can put one in it is cheap and easy insurance against particles.

So, what pressure does this gauge say you are running?
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post Jul 12 2006, 04:04 PM
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[quote name='Dr Evil' date='Jul 12 2006, 01:55 PM' post='726077']
Ya sure, "it tripped."

doc what do you mean tripped? won't know pressure till tomorrow after i move the pump up front and put it back together. going to test it out of the gas gan for return and pressure before i put the tank back in. about the spacing the sock provides would a washer work? it will probably take a week to get a new sock.
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post Jul 12 2006, 05:00 PM
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If it were all together befor without a leak you dont need another spacer. It was a looong time ago when I worked on mine and I needed to use a spacer (unless I am thinking of something else. Studing for med school has made me forget or mix up a lot).

The "it tripped" was for your camment about the old gauge just "falling" against a wall (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Good call on the gas can (dont smoke in your garage or near it).

Black smoke can also be caused by fouled plugs. How is your distributor, plugs, etc? There are more causes, but I am drawing a blank.
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post Jul 12 2006, 05:14 PM
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Black smoke can also be caused by fouled plugs. How is your distributor, plugs, etc? There are more causes, but I am drawing a blank.
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dizzy is new as are points and plugs. plugs had a liitle black on them but didn't seem too fouled. may i adress the jury one more time. can i blow compressed air thru the fuel rails to make sure they are not blocked? press reg is in a box so i won't upset it. as far as the guage trippin, yeh thats it and anyone who's says otherwise is lyin.
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post Jul 12 2006, 05:33 PM
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QUOTE(nycchef @ Jul 12 2006, 07:14 PM) *

can i blow compressed air thru the fuel rails to make sure they are not blocked?


My thought on this, using air will only tell you if the circuit is not completely blocked, it won't tell you if there is a partial obstruction. Having a fluid go through the same thing may yield different results...

I think the Dr. said at one point that you should run fuel into a empty can starting with a small circuit and keep adding lines untill you catch the one with the pressure issue. I would stick to that plan.
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post Jul 12 2006, 06:13 PM
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concerned about partial blockage in the tunnel. if i started with2 gas cans each with 1 gallon of gas and pumped from can a to can b and then back from can b to can a to complete the circuit leaving the engine out of it. would i end up with equal amounts in each can at the end? or does the pump suck harder than it blows? i heard that somewhere. or have a lost my mind?
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post Jul 12 2006, 06:20 PM
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Would it not be easier to put both send and return in the same can? It would work sufficiently and you could check the tunnel lines that way provided you had enough fuel to prime the circuit and a little extra for flow.

What did you decide on changing the lines to stainless? eventually?
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post Jul 12 2006, 06:59 PM
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What did you decide on changing the lines to stainless? eventually?
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here is my plan (1) keep obsessing over this and try to get the d-jet perfect then
(2) if i get the other engine and it's a 2.0 rip out this one put in steel lines and switch to carbs. has anyone ever tried to make the holes in the center tunnel larger and fabricating a new grommet out of i don't know old sneakers? this may be the tequila talking
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post Jul 12 2006, 07:03 PM
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Good lord, I hope I am able to come up and stop you before you try any of this sneaker BS.
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post Jul 12 2006, 07:08 PM
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We're gonna read about this in the papers tomorrow morning...
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post Jul 12 2006, 07:19 PM
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QUOTE(jk76.914 @ Jul 12 2006, 05:08 PM) *

We're gonna read about this in the papers tomorrow morning...

i'm hoping to make cnn too. seriously, sneakers aside is it so crazy to make those holes 2" x 4" and make a grommet out of 1" fire resistant black rubber, with an inside groove so that it pops in? these areas are not structural. this stuff is common in commercial kitchen mats. 2 years of culinary school is starting to pay off. wheres that bottle of patron did you guys take it.
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post Jul 12 2006, 07:28 PM
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Isn't there enough holes in your 914 allready (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

Other people have run steel lines through the tunnel using the stock holes, so it shouldn't be a problem for you eihter, especially if you're doing it without the engine in the bay.

And why would you go for carbs, now that you're learning everything about the FI.

I think you should stop sniffing the sneakers, call your doctor, you need medication (IMG:style_emoticons/default/alfred.gif)
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post Jul 12 2006, 07:39 PM
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why carbs? quick story. last week a friend came over i haven't seen in a year . told him i bought a 914 and he says oh i have one of those engines in my warehouse. guy took it out of his car 9 years ago and never came back. has 2 webers on it . do you want it? i said well if its in the way i'll take it. the d-jet is making me nuts. carbs have got to be easier. is it me or are they putting less tequila in these bottles than they used too. also is there any other group of guys who spend this much time on line and aren't looking at porn?
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post Jul 12 2006, 07:44 PM
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don't give up. Heck when your done your gonna be my go to guy for fuel problems (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)


Oh hey remember I said a guy at work is going to the culinary arts school. Kinda cool now because he is bringing in the food they make that day. Had ostrich steaks yesterday and lamb chops today. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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post Jul 12 2006, 08:12 PM
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Mmmmm, lamb. So young, tender and basically defensless (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)

I have the brake line switched to fuel line sin my center tunnel and you dont need to goof with the holes. Put the wisk down cookie!

Carbs easier? There in a 914, right? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/av-943.gif)

Actually, I know very little about carbs so I can't talk smack.
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post Jul 12 2006, 11:27 PM
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I'm buying you some duct tape for xmas. That'll fixer!!!

Seriously if I have to tow it this weekend I will.

This whole thing is making me want some of that Takillya.

He try it in the fuel lines (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 13 2006, 05:56 AM
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Waiting to hear back from Ray about garage space so we can slay this fuel beast this w'end (looking @ Sunday AM).

Tequila welcome but I prefer old fashioned cheap canned bear - thats just the midwest in me.
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post Jul 13 2006, 08:22 AM
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[quote name='ptravnic' date='Jul 13 2006, 03:56 AM' post='726612']
Waiting to hear back from Ray about garage space so we can slay this fuel beast this w'end (looking @ Sunday AM).

sunday a.m. bad for me . have to do a cooking show on t.v. sat. afternoon and today are my only windows this week.
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post Jul 13 2006, 09:35 AM
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I second the tequilla craving. I havenet had a margarita, or anything fun in a while. This weekend should prove interesting (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Some of Joe Sharp's Cazadores would kill the pain.
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