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> Show me your front oil cooler..., ...running through the fog light grills
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post Jul 20 2006, 04:41 PM
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It's going straight out through the front of the wheel well. Probably use thin gauge aluminum for that. I used some foam tape to form a good tight seal between the cooler and the front of the car.
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post Jul 20 2006, 05:04 PM
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Gwen, don't know if you saw my latest development.

I was out in the hills today busting it up and the oil temps stayed below 200° (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
It was near 100° in Napa today...hideous.

Will the report from Sear tomorrow night mean anything to you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
My goal is 220° or lower. Forecast in Sonoma is near 100° Arrrghh!!


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post Jul 20 2006, 05:56 PM
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Jul 20 2006, 04:04 PM) *

Gwen, don't know if you saw my latest development.

I was out in the hills today busting it up and the oil temps stayed below 200° (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
It was near 100° in Napa today...hideous.

Will the report from Sear tomorrow night mean anything to you? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
My goal is 220° or lower. Forecast in Sonoma is near 100° Arrrghh!!


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Ya, it's scorching in the south bay too. GTEENER is in her shady garage....

Did Mark help you with your oil cooler setup?
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post Jul 20 2006, 11:33 PM
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He has seen it. I'm the wrench (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


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post Jul 23 2006, 12:19 AM
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I was installing my Mocal cooler today in the front and I was wondering about water drainage. Since the cooler is inside the vehicle instead of outside, water will get in from washing and rain. The only thing I can think of is put some water in there and drill holes in the low spots.....What did you guys do?
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post Jul 23 2006, 08:34 PM
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Has anyone mounted a cooler where the fresh air vent is? It is a good low pressure area.
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post Jul 23 2006, 08:54 PM
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High pressure area, but it's still a decent location. I don't know anyone who's done it, but for a smaller engine, its a possibility. the issue becomes getting rid of the hot air.
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post Jul 23 2006, 08:59 PM
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QUOTE(bam914 @ Jul 23 2006, 08:34 PM) *

Has anyone mounted a cooler where the fresh air vent is? It is a good low pressure area.


I've seen it twice.

good it you plan on gutting the car.. (race-ish)
a guy in my vintage club runs his cooler there on a stock 1.7/4 and it is adequate for that motor.


of course it raises weight and the center of gravity a bit.
for a serious race car, do you want that weight going that high?


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post Jul 23 2006, 09:01 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 23 2006, 07:54 PM) *

High pressure area, but it's still a decent location. I don't know anyone who's done it, but for a smaller engine, its a possibility. the issue becomes getting rid of the hot air.


McMark's right. The base of the windscreen is a high-pressure area. The air has to be forced up and over the car, and pressure builds there. This is why you see air intakes for ventilation systems on most cars.

I've seen one 914 with an oil cooler mounted there, on top of the fresh air box. It was a 3.2 Six conversion, and that smallish cooler seemed to be enough to keep the oil cool. It didn't, however, generate all that much heat into the cabin, which was the other reason cited for mounting it there.
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post Jul 23 2006, 10:29 PM
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This with a factory 6 oil cooler keeps it plenty cool (tested in AZ heat!). Thermostatic fan kicks it on when necessary. Not my doing, I miss my wipers.
(IMG:http://gallery.rennlist.com/albums/album56/oil_left.jpg)
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post Jul 24 2006, 08:51 AM
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Lee,

I forgot you had your cooler there.
so that is 3of them done that way in colorado!

Lee, why don't you come out the moab RRC06?
it would be great to see you again, and a nice reasonable objective to get the yellow car back on the road!

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post Jul 24 2006, 10:12 AM
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QUOTE(Mountain914 @ Jul 23 2006, 09:29 PM) *

This with a factory 6 oil cooler keeps it plenty cool (tested in AZ heat!). Thermostatic fan kicks it on when necessary. Not my doing, I miss my wipers.
(IMG:http://gallery.rennlist.com/albums/album56/oil_left.jpg)


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) This is an interesting placement.

Can a cooler be mounted there without losing the wipers?

I'd get a GT valence, un-block the plug-holes and wouldn't need to cut much of the chassis...
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post Jul 24 2006, 10:49 AM
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QUOTE(bam914 @ Jul 23 2006, 07:34 PM) *

Has anyone mounted a cooler where the fresh air vent is? It is a good low pressure area.


Years ago, Wayne Bake used this location in his IMSA car. Very cool. The traditional front location he used to divert air to cool the brakes.
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post Jul 24 2006, 11:08 AM
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Gwen,

no pictures, but Ed C. in San Antonio(?) TX has an oil cooler behind the fog light grills on each side. It works on his street/auto-x/DE car in HOT Texas contrary to the nay-sayers that "think" it won't work (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Having said that, I'm a fan of the GT oil-cooling method, it's proven to work and looks the best..........
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post Jul 24 2006, 11:41 AM
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Having said that, I'm a fan of the GT oil-cooling method, it's proven to work and looks the best..........


As long as you don't want to keep your full-size (205/50 15) spare tire and be able to stash you targa top in the back trunk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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post Jul 25 2006, 09:12 PM
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QUOTE(GTeener @ Jul 24 2006, 10:12 AM) *

QUOTE(Mountain914 @ Jul 23 2006, 09:29 PM) *

This with a factory 6 oil cooler keeps it plenty cool (tested in AZ heat!). Thermostatic fan kicks it on when necessary. Not my doing, I miss my wipers.


(IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) This is an interesting placement.

Can a cooler be mounted there without losing the wipers?

I'd get a GT valence, un-block the plug-holes and wouldn't need to cut much of the chassis...


Yeah - I'm not sure this is entirely needed, but I like it enough that I am trying to find a different way to do my wipers (Jeep ?). You're right on not cutting much of the chassis, but I have a big hole in my firewall, and it's not a real 6 anyway, so.....

And Brant, Free time is my whole issue right now, I have become a major workaholic, spend all the rest of the time trying to keep the girlfriend happy (gardening, not cars are her thing)... but I lurk, so there is hope. September is out, though <sorry> (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jul 25 2006, 09:24 PM
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QUOTE(GTeener @ Jul 24 2006, 10:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 24 2006, 10:08 AM) *

Having said that, I'm a fan of the GT oil-cooling method, it's proven to work and looks the best..........


As long as you don't want to keep your full-size (205/50 15) spare tire and be able to stash you targa top in the back trunk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


I really don't see how the GT cooler method (or a nice variant of it) and the front mounted tire cannot happily co-exist....just mount the tire on the bulkhead of the front trunk instead of having it lay flat...that size tire should have an envolope size of ~8.5" X 23.2"...maybe it is too tall, don't have a 914 in front of me to measure (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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post Jul 25 2006, 09:27 PM
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and Brant, Free time is my whole issue right now, I have become a major workaholic, spend all the rest of the time trying to keep the girlfriend happy (gardening, not cars are her thing)... but I lurk, so there is hope. September is out, though <sorry> (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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dang...
we will miss you.

best of luck
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QUOTE(GTeener @ Jul 24 2006, 10:41 AM) *

QUOTE(Mueller @ Jul 24 2006, 10:08 AM) *

Having said that, I'm a fan of the GT oil-cooling method, it's proven to work and looks the best..........


As long as you don't want to keep your full-size (205/50 15) spare tire and be able to stash you targa top in the back trunk. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)


gwen...

just upgrade or get a spacesaver...

i posted the pic of mine on my front bulkhead, aft of the cooler right?
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heres mine.

Note, the car has a 3.0, the former owner says he never had heat problems, I've only driven it twice, although on the hottest two days in the history of the Santa Cruz mountains.

It does seem very exposed thought, that worries me.


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