 The Official JLO V8 Conversion Thread, Here we go! |
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| nine14cats |
 Jul 17 2006, 12:23 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo  Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(lapuwali @ Jul 17 2006, 11:20 AM)  And the 2.2 Type 4 Bill sold to me is obviously doomed to be a transient. It's coming out of my car for a 2.7 Six soonish, and at least a couple of clubbers have expressed interest in it. Don't you just love it! These cars are the ultimate "Frankencars" with parts going from chassis to chassis.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Bill P. |
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| nine14cats |
Jul 17 2006, 12:31 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Jul 17 2006, 10:56 AM) The 3.6 engine Bill sold to Andy was from his Beast track car project....which I believe the chassis is now owned by Randal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) JLO was a V8 conversion car from the beginning,,,it has just been awhile since Bill has had time to work on it and make any headway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) Latest iteration of "The Beast™" is a joint development car for Randal and I. I'm still the owner and am still working with Scott and Brad to finish the car. Most likely "The Beast™" will get a 3.6 and WEVO box. I've already sent a new rear swaybar to Yeaman Autobody last week. Randal and I will be down there Wednesday to pick colors for the chassis powdercoat and for the body colors as well. I will have pictures and will be starting an official "The Beast™ build up thread" soon. Too many things going on right now..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Bill P. |
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| Brad Roberts |
Jul 17 2006, 12:42 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
I look forward to getting it together (finally)
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| GTeener |
Jul 17 2006, 01:00 PM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(nine14cats @ Jul 17 2006, 11:31 AM) QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Jul 17 2006, 10:56 AM) The 3.6 engine Bill sold to Andy was from his Beast track car project....which I believe the chassis is now owned by Randal (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) JLO was a V8 conversion car from the beginning,,,it has just been awhile since Bill has had time to work on it and make any headway. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/burnout.gif) Latest iteration of "The Beast™" is a joint development car for Randal and I. I'm still the owner and am still working with Scott and Brad to finish the car. Most likely "The Beast™" will get a 3.6 and WEVO box. I've already sent a new rear swaybar to Yeaman Autobody last week. Randal and I will be down there Wednesday to pick colors for the chassis powdercoat and for the body colors as well. I will have pictures and will be starting an official "The Beast™ build up thread" soon. Too many things going on right now..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Bill P. "The Beast" has taken how many years to complete now? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) Dude, you win the patience award (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 10:44 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Tonight I played with JLO and mocked up the radiator assembly and sheet metal. Here's a few pics of tonight's progress.
First the sheet metal base and sides.... Bill P. Attached image(s) 
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 10:45 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Next the RH radiator is set into position....
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 10:46 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Radiator cowling goes on....
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 10:48 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Assembled look from the fan side.....
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 10:50 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
And here is an aluminum L channel that I have no clue as to where it goes. I'll call Renegade tomorrow, unless someone knows where it goes..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 10:50 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Maybe the L channel goes here?
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 10:53 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
Here's an interesting shot of the radiator cowling on top of the radiator. It doesn't look like this is how it would fit on the radiator, but supposedly I shouldn't have to notch the cowling to fit over the fan brackets.
Anyone have an idea about this? I've got this on my list as well for my Renegade call. Bill P. Attached image(s) 
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| Bruce Allert |
Aug 2 2006, 11:17 PM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bill, I don't know anything about these V8 conv. radiators and just to show my ignorance...
Where is the fill cap? If it's on top like a regular radiator your cowl would cover it. It looks like the back face of the cowl should be bracing the front of the radiator or (another way of saying it) the radiator would butt up against the rear face of the cowl. I dunno... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) just a thought. I'll trade ya a mini horse for JLO when yer done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) ...b (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
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| nine14cats |
Aug 2 2006, 11:40 PM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Bruce Allert @ Aug 2 2006, 10:17 PM) Bill, I don't know anything about these V8 conv. radiators and just to show my ignorance... Where is the fill cap? If it's on top like a regular radiator your cowl would cover it. It looks like the back face of the cowl should be bracing the front of the radiator or (another way of saying it) the radiator would butt up against the rear face of the cowl. I dunno... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) just a thought. I'll trade ya a mini horse for JLO when yer done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) ...b (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) Hi Bruce, Believe it or not, the radiator fill is at the highest point of the coolant system....in the engine bay! The way the cowling goes on the radiator and the instructions from Renegade say that the cowling goes over the top of the radiator. It's interesting that Renegade makes a nice kit (most everything bolts right up) and gives customers like myself access to a internal web page that gives pictures and instructions for their kit assembly. But in reality, their instructions are very poor in my opinion. RH says a picture is worth a thousand words, but they only have a handful of pictures. If I were them, I'd take digital pics step by step of their assembly process and provide it. Here's a pic of aircooledboy's RH ride. You can see the radiator fill stand and overflow bottle in the engine bay. Thanks, Bill P. Attached image(s) 
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| GS Guy |
Aug 3 2006, 05:42 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 243 Joined: 8-July 04 From: Columbia, MD Member No.: 2,325 Region Association: North East States |
Bill,
Any chance the cowl piece is upside down? Looks like it should fit flush on top of the rad. maybe with the piece of angle connecting the flange (now sticking up) with the upper fan mounting bolts? BTW, I've decided the JLO car is pretty much exactly how I want my next project to be - a GT flared car, properly reinforced, with V8 power. Got to get a few current projects out of the way first though - maybe in another year or so..... Jeff |
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| Bruce Allert |
Aug 3 2006, 07:36 AM
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Hellions asleep Group: Members Posts: 3,289 Joined: 19-March 03 From: Eagle Creek, Orygun Member No.: 441 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
Bill, looking at the Renegade photo of their radiator assembly on their site, yours looks a wee bit different. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
Renegade Radiator ....b |
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| dakotaewing |
Aug 3 2006, 08:26 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,160 Joined: 8-July 03 From: DeSoto, Tx Member No.: 897 Region Association: Southwest Region 
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Bill -
Run this by the others here on this board, but I am pretty sure that you do not want ANY metal touching the radiator, but have all contact isolated by rubber... If you have metal to metal contact, you will "ground the radiator" which will cause electrolisis (sp) which will destroy the radiator over a period of time - A good example is to look at any modern car, and you will find the the radiator rests on rubber and has rubber in the securing areas... Thom |
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| GTeener |
Aug 3 2006, 09:10 AM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Bruce Allert @ Aug 2 2006, 10:17 PM) Bill, I don't know anything about these V8 conv. radiators and just to show my ignorance... Where is the fill cap? If it's on top like a regular radiator your cowl would cover it. It looks like the back face of the cowl should be bracing the front of the radiator or (another way of saying it) the radiator would butt up against the rear face of the cowl. I dunno... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) just a thought. I'll trade ya a mini horse for JLO when yer done (IMG:style_emoticons/default/drooley.gif) ...b (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/hijacked.gif) Bruce, You have a miniature horse? Do you breed them? How are they as pets? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thisthreadisworthlesswithoutpics.gif) |
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| GTeener |
Aug 3 2006, 09:12 AM
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914 Girl Group: Members Posts: 2,348 Joined: 25-June 04 From: SillyCon Valley Member No.: 2,249 Region Association: Northern California |
Bill,
Keep up the good work and thanks for sharing the progress! |
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| neo914-6 |
Aug 3 2006, 11:07 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
Bill,
I don't see that part on mine (circa 03) unless it's inside lower front of the radiator. You are missing notches. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) on the lack of instructions... Looking good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Attached image(s)  
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| nine14cats |
Aug 4 2006, 12:17 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Aug 3 2006, 10:07 PM) Bill, I don't see that part on mine (circa 03) unless it's inside lower front of the radiator. You are missing notches. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) on the lack of instructions... Looking good! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) Hi Felix, I talked with Scott at RH today. From your picture, I have the same radiator as you. As Bruce pointed out from RH's site, their current design is different. Their new radiator is slightly deeper and the sheetmetal layout is different. Scott says to toss the "L" channel. As you suspected, it's there to keep the front of the radiator from moving. But he says the "C" channel does that. He said I would have to notch the cowling by hand as yours is. I also asked Scott the question that Thom mentioned -- keeping the radiator from touching the sheet metal. Scott said that they use upholstery edging on the side "wings" that the front vertical part of the radiator touches and that RH uses single sided RV adhesive foam on the top and bottom of the radiator. They attach the adhesive side directly to the top and bottom of the radiator and then make a compression fit into the "C" channel at the bottom and use the top cowling with the lip to hold the radiator in place. No other anchoring is desired. RH wants the radiator to float in the assembly given the flex of the 914's front end sheetmetal. How is your assembly clearanced? Does is have foam in between the bottom and top of the radiator? And what is "RV adhesive foam"? and where do I find it? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) Bill P. |
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