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> Overseas buyer.., Sounds like a text book case to me
Kerrys914
post Jul 31 2006, 11:42 AM
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I just got this e-mail today and though you guys might like to read it.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) Sounds like all the scams I have seen on selling cars overseas. This is the second interested overseas buyer for my 914-6.




Hello,
I read your message with great sense of understanding.

The price is okay by me,I will go ahead and Instruct a personal client in the states to issue you a certified cashier check or money order which would cover all expenses for it. It is most likely you would get it sometime next week or even sooner.

He will be issueing you a cashiers check or money order to the tune of $16,900 The reason being that after you deduct your $11000 and other expenses emanating from all forms of charges.

The rest could be wired by you to an international shipping agent via western union money transfer,who will be communicated to you in due time.

He will help in the shipping of the item to my location I would want it to be packaged and delivered in the safest and most proffesional way.

The shipper is likely to be reluctant to pick it up until he is mobilised, i.e the balance wired to him is his fees for his services,tranportation to and fro,clearing and all other ch arges involved in this transaction okay.

He would be advised to come to your house or the location that you give me for him to pick it up as soon as he is mobilized by the funds you send to him.

Also before I forget send me your full name and contact address as should appear on the check or money order and to Take where it is going to be sent to and for shippers pick up point, and also your phone number so I can always contact you on to monitor proceeding of things.please do get back as soon as possible.

Best Regard

H----- N------ (Name has been removed) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chowtime.gif)


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post Jul 31 2006, 12:00 PM
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well, you could always tell him you'll ship the car "when the check clears" (if...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:04 PM
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:25 PM
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QUOTE(type47 @ Jul 31 2006, 11:00 AM) *

well, you could always tell him you'll ship the car "when the check clears" (if...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)


Don't even try to deposit the check.. most likely your bank will charge YOU for depositing a FAKE check- and they'll charge you REAL money. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:43 PM
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Why is this a scam? I'm lost
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:47 PM
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Why is this a scam? I'm lost


You deposit fake cashiers check in your bank.. then withdraw the "extra" and wire transfer it to their "shipper" (wire transfers are irreversable). 2 weeks later, the bank says the cashiers check was fake, but you already sent the real money to the scammer. Really common scam on online classifieds.
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:49 PM
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OK i get it. So how is shipping normally handled? Or how would payment be arranged to not be a scam?
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post Jul 31 2006, 12:49 PM
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post Jul 31 2006, 01:01 PM
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OK i get it. So how is shipping normally handled? Or how would payment be arranged to not be a scam?


Make the seller handle the shipping in it's entirety. The shipper works for the buyer, not you. The buyer should be paying the shipper.

Patterns I have noticed in scams, beyond the scam itself:

1. They start out stating that they are ok with your price
2. They try to convince you that everything will be ok and go smoothly
3. Bad english
4. Ordinary sounding names, sometimes using common last names as first, and vice versa
5. Emails are sent from free web based email services
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post Jul 31 2006, 01:07 PM
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I even had one guy try to go through ebay - set up a new account and listed the car on ebay (user had zero feedback) under the premise I'd think it was safer that way. These people are creative and pretty much out of reach from our law.

Caveat Emptor!
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post Jul 31 2006, 01:15 PM
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If he is willing to use wells fargo to take the money, have him send it that way too...

Or that green foldy paper stuff works too, have his "agent" bring you that

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post Jul 31 2006, 01:15 PM
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This is a SCAM in the biggest way! Just read my thread that is nailed on the classifieds board. Sounds like the same group that contacted me for my wheels!

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post Jul 31 2006, 01:25 PM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;)
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I should play along and have him send the MO to me so I can see what one of these fake MO looks like.

Maybe I should call Dateline or the local news and see if they want to do a news spot (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
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post Jul 31 2006, 01:31 PM
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QUOTE(type47 @ Jul 31 2006, 11:00 AM) *

well, you could always tell him you'll ship the car "when the check clears" (if...) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)

will you guys ever learn ???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)

the check WILL clear, then you send your stuff and about 2 weeks later the bank will come back to tell you the check was no good.
they take their money back and you're out the parts. plus the hefty fees your bank will charge you ...

SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM SCAM
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post Jul 31 2006, 05:46 PM
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QUOTE(914fan @ Jul 31 2006, 08:49 PM) *

OK i get it. So how is shipping normally handled?

what makes you think they ever come collect the car?
they're not interested in your car or parts, they just want you to wire them the "extra" from the bogus check they send you and that's it...
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post Jul 31 2006, 05:50 PM
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Looks legit to me, I say go for it.
It'll all work out unless you have some bad karma lurking in the shadows.
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post Jul 31 2006, 05:55 PM
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Kerry,

I received the exact same letter several months ago. Different name, same verbage....

Tell him the demand has been so high for your car car it's now selling at $30k see what he has to say.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/chairfall.gif)
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post Jul 31 2006, 06:21 PM
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QUOTE(Sammy @ Jul 31 2006, 07:50 PM) *

Looks legit to me, I say go for it.
It'll all work out unless you have some bad karma lurking in the shadows.


Say that you are kidding !!!!
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post Jul 31 2006, 06:23 PM
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Dear, the parts I just sold paid for that part ;)
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QUOTE(Sammy @ Jul 31 2006, 07:50 PM) *

Looks legit to me, I say go for it.
It'll all work out unless you have some bad karma lurking in the shadows.


No bad Karma here Earl, but no thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)
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post Jul 31 2006, 06:48 PM
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This comes up about every month now, huh? Do a search for "Harry Paratestis" to see the last thread about this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Same words, same verbage, if you tell him you want $5k more for havien to do the work they will say ok.
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