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> OT! Destroying old hard drives and backup tapes
Qarl
post Aug 2 2006, 09:17 PM
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I literally have about 4 dozen old hard drives (between 6 and 10 gigabytes each) and about 60 old backup tapes that I need to secure lyerase and destroy.

Can I go to my local surplus store and get a mega magnet (like the one you would retrieve crap off of the bottom of a lake using a rope) and demagnetize and erase them?

They have medical information on them and I need to render the drives usesless and unreadable.

I do not want to sit there for 6 hours witha sledge hammer and I don't have enough drill bits to drill through the platters?

Will a heavy duty magnet work?

What are my other options.
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post Aug 2 2006, 09:22 PM
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the only sure way (DOD approved) is to destroy the platters themselves..

If you dont want to take them apart and break the platters, there are companies that do this as part of the business.

Ask around, look in the yellow pages..they used to just come with portable shredders, now I think they have heavy duty ones for things like hard drives..and you can watch to sign off on the job.

If you cant find one, contact a local defense contractor...ask the IT guys..or the head of Security...its there job to destroy the stuff, so they know who the companies are..
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post Aug 2 2006, 09:23 PM
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plasma cutter? a drill press would make pretty good work of them also, just need one hole all the way through and you are pretty much done.

We have a electromagnet machine at work that we use to erase tapes and hard drives, might check with a local university to see if they have something similar you can use.

Or go to a highschool and challenge the kids to see who can destroy their harddrive the fastest!

Good luck,

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post Aug 2 2006, 09:39 PM
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:00 PM
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Carl: You need to build a small mound of dirt and next to it in the hole where it came from, place the drives and use your triger fringer to put the holes in them.
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:15 PM
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Ever pointed that Mosin Nagant at a hard drive? Give it a whirl. I had a blast (literally) last time.
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:21 PM
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QUOTE(Qarl @ Aug 2 2006, 08:17 PM) *

I do not want to sit there for 6 hours witha sledge hammer and I don't have enough drill bits to drill through the platters?



Sounds like about 10 minutes of work. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

One hit per tape and two hits per drive should do it.

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post Aug 2 2006, 10:23 PM
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QUOTE(r_towle @ Aug 2 2006, 07:22 PM) *

If you cant find one, contact a local defense contractor...ask the IT guys..or the head of Security...its there job to destroy the stuff, so they know who the companies are..
Rich

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There are firms that will do it for a price. I'm also seeing the computer recycling industry starting to emerge. They grind electronic components into sawdust and then separate the different components - it is an evironmental thing. They aren't in the data security business but once a drive goes through their shredder even the spooks couldn't put it back together.

Tapes are a bit different. We used to use a vibrating electromagnet to erase backup tapes. I think though with enough time and effort though someone could read it - just not with a normal drive. Writing a stream of 1s and 0s is a cheap and effective way of deleting as well. Going low tech - I bet they would burn well.
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:27 PM
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You could burn the tapes. Shoot up the rest.
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:29 PM
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If you don't want to shoot them, a bonfire works too. Roast some marshmellos and toss the drives in. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:36 PM
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post Aug 2 2006, 10:49 PM
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seeing Miles is MIA........stuff them in chickens and feed them to gators
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post Aug 2 2006, 11:09 PM
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whoa...wait........how much nekid stuff ya got on there......maybe a great gift to Miles to get him off the goat kick (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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post Aug 2 2006, 11:16 PM
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http://www.lwgconsulting.com/locations/index.html

Try these guys. They have a location in Orlando. They are defense contract secure data recovery experts. I've used them for Insurance claims. If they can recover it, they can destroy it too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 12:06 AM
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I say first you shoot them.
Then you burn them.
Then you drown them.
Then you hang them.

Then you hammer them.

And lastly, you insult them. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)
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post Aug 3 2006, 12:13 AM
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A degauser would probably work (magnet) but if you had a cutting torch or

know someone that does it would make short order of those tapes and harddrives.
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post Aug 3 2006, 02:00 AM
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Take them to skeet range and have some fun shooting them to bits.
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post Aug 3 2006, 05:58 AM
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post Aug 3 2006, 06:23 AM
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On the serious side, if you want to securely erase a disk there are established procedures and specifications for doing so. Our company used to produce such a product but since there are so many free ones out there we dropped it. As I remember it, we overwrote the data a minimum of 7 or more times with certain types of data. We would then truncate the file to prevent anyone from seeing what the size of the file was. We would also allow you to erase an entire disk using the same algorithm. You may ask why 7 times and the answer is that the residual magnetism from past writes can be detected with the correct gear.

Do a google search for file shredder and then search for one that meets the DoD/military or other standards.

Once this is done, get a big f***ing hammer and have fun! Or put them in front of a dragster and have them do a burn on over the top of them!

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post Aug 3 2006, 06:28 AM
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I think Norton Utilities makes a program to do this. Basically it just erases the files, then creates random noise files to fill the entire disc. The erases and repeats 7 or 8 times. Gets all those little electrons screwed up so they don't remember where they came from.

Check on-line. We have a copy of it here in the office and use it for the exact same purpose.

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