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2.0 Litre Fuchs cleaning/etc, Ya dig in the garage.... |
krk |
Oct 18 2003, 07:07 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
Folks,
This last week has been "attack the garage week" -- and I've dug out a set of 2.0L Fuchs. Ok, they've been in my garage almost since I arrived in CA, and I'm pretty sure they were in the PO's garage for 8 or 10 years before that. I've never actually looked at them closely. Anyhoo, questions, question, questions. a. How do you get the center caps out of them with out scaping the crap out of 'em? (they went up into the crawl space before I knew what a 2.0 center cap was) The caps have some dents in them - it is worth the bother of trying to un-dent them? b. There seems to be an anodized clear finish between the padles -- what does one normally do to clean this area? Pics will be posted once I've cleaned a decade of dust, and brake crap from the last decade, off. tia. kim. |
rhodyguy |
Oct 18 2003, 07:15 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
squirt a little bp from the backside. i use a 1 1/2" hardwood dowel and a hammer to ease them out along the outer lip/edge. don't wham them from the center. the same dowel can be used to "iron" them out. when you have tires mounted take the dowel with you and remove them yourself. not the guy with a screw driver and a hammer.
kevin "banging on bay viewing window at discount tire" |
krk |
Oct 18 2003, 07:20 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
Thx Kev -- basically something big and round to pop them out. Do the caps normally have a flat surface on them? (man, you can tell I've never seen one, eh?)
kim. |
EdwardBlume |
Oct 18 2003, 07:44 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
There's a special tool for taking the caps off. If you don't have the tool (which most tire shops don't) you end up messing up the cap. I don't have the tool either, so I modified a piece of wood to poke them out. I then try to push them back into shape after. As far as cleaning... I use a dremmel, polish, and a steamer. Takes lots of time, but it does fine. Any chance you want to sell two of your 2.0 Fuchs?
Take care! |
krk |
Oct 18 2003, 07:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
cavpwguy,
Thx! Ok, I'm particularly interested in the recessed parts which seem to be anodized (?). The padles and rims seem to be similar to regular fuchs -- "applie mothers and rub 'till you're dead" :-) So the parts that are covered in whatever it was the Porsche used on the sort of duller sections -- is it ok to apply mothers? or should I use something else? Re: Selling -- actually the whole set will be up for sale once I can take stock of what they are and offer a fair description. (I don't have any 4 bolt cars -- my SO has pointed out that saving them for another 10 years may not make all that much sense. Man, I hate seeing the obvious printed in front of me like that! :-)) kim. |
EdwardBlume |
Oct 18 2003, 09:10 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 12,338 Joined: 2-January 03 From: SLO Member No.: 81 Region Association: Central California |
Let's talk. I'm running 1.5 sets of Fuchs for my AX car and could use more for spares.
I understand the work involved in hand polish but short of professional work, it usually takes time. Best, R |
p914 |
Oct 18 2003, 09:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 518 Joined: 7-September 03 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 1,117 Region Association: None |
http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/show...?threadid=31603
Center Cap tool set. and for refisnishing the fuchs: http://forums.rennlist.com/rennforums/show...?threadid=31599 |
JeffBowlsby |
Oct 18 2003, 10:40 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,533 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
If they are original, the entire wheel was clear anodized Kim. If mag polish can shine up the high spots, someone has removed the anodizing and exposed the raw aluminum.
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biosurfer1 |
Oct 18 2003, 10:44 PM
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Teener fo Life! Group: Members Posts: 3,020 Joined: 3-August 03 From: Roseville, CA Member No.: 977 Region Association: Northern California |
i used easy-off on all parts of the wheel and it worked pretty well(the hard part is waiting for it to do it's thing) so patient and it will come off, after i sprayed it and let sit, i used a pressure washer to get it off... you'll have to polish the wheels after you finish, but i like the way it turned out.
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seanery |
Oct 19 2003, 07:25 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,854 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
contact robby750 about the wheels, if you are cleaing & polishing, he has some of the nicest fuchs around, I'm sure he's got good ideas for that, but if your just cleaning go to the local harley dealer, they have some strong wheel cleaner that is awesome. I think its part of the P21 line of products.
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anthony |
Oct 19 2003, 08:17 AM
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2270 club Group: Benefactors Posts: 3,107 Joined: 1-February 03 From: SF Bay Area, CA Member No.: 218 |
The P21s wheel polish works wonders on the Fuchs.
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Katmanken |
Oct 19 2003, 09:40 AM
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You haven't seen me if anybody asks... Group: Members Posts: 4,738 Joined: 14-June 03 From: USA Member No.: 819 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
What was the factory finish like? Was the anodizing dull or were the wheels polished and shiny under the clear anodize?
I just picked up a very nice set of 5 and using Mothers, have spent about 1/2 hour per wheel on the spokes and rims to get a real shine. Guess that means the anodizing is gone. Don't know why people state that the Riviera Fuchs-like copys polish better. Anyway, once they are polished, what works as a protectant? Ken |
krk |
Oct 19 2003, 09:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
QUOTE(bowlsby @ Oct 18 2003, 08:40 PM) If they are original, the entire wheel was clear anodized Kim. If mag polish can shine up the high spots, someone has removed the anodizing and exposed the raw aluminum. Ok. I've cleaned 3 of them and have some extra fact-wannabe's. Two to go. People put wheel weights in stupid places. It turns out you should always trust your Mother - when it turns black, there's nothing twixt you and the metal. These wheels appear to have a greyish-silver paint between the paddles, and a clear finnish of some sort over the entire wheel, except the outter ring. That is, Mothers stays white on the paddles, and goes black on the rim. Duh. When I get the other two cleaned up, I'll dig out my digicam and shoot a couple. I have more questions, but without a pic, it would be hard to describe. (btw, thx for the assist/advice) kim. |
rhodyguy |
Oct 19 2003, 09:59 AM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
did you check out lawrence's tech article at the bird? there are a # of other ones too.
kevin |
krk |
Oct 19 2003, 11:52 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
Last fact wanna be's and a couple of pics. Turns out your Mother can tell you lots. The spare tire is still mounted on the rim -- and it is anodized over the entire wheel. If you look closely at the other 4 wheels, the rims have had the anodization removed. I'm gessing the PO may have had some curb rash repaired? Hard to tell.
On one wheel, a wheel weight appears to have removed some anodization or something. (actually, I can't quite tell -- one of the pics will show it) First the set. Attached image(s) |
krk |
Oct 19 2003, 11:55 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
Here's the spare -- I wonder if it's the original....
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krk |
Oct 19 2003, 11:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 997 Joined: 27-December 02 From: San Jose Member No.: 22 |
Here's a close up of what must have been a wheel weight. It's almost as if there is a very very thin layer of plastic, but it doesn't feel like that to the touch -- anyone seen this before?
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rhodyguy |
Oct 19 2003, 12:02 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
it's a repro. there is a extra ridge compare to this.
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rhodyguy |
Oct 19 2003, 12:04 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
the real ones should have these numbers on the back.
kevin Attached image(s) |
rhodyguy |
Oct 19 2003, 12:08 PM
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Chimp Sanctuary NW. Check it out. Group: Members Posts: 22,093 Joined: 2-March 03 From: Orion's Bell. The BELL! Member No.: 378 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
atleast it wasn't a hammer on weight. when having tires mounted i insist on that or no sale.
kevin |
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