Goodbye to Michael, End of an era at Ferrari |
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Goodbye to Michael, End of an era at Ferrari |
jimtab |
Sep 10 2006, 08:22 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,477 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Pacifica, California Member No.: 91 Region Association: Northern California |
Just heard the news at the end of the Monza race...it will be Shu's last, and only 3 more for Ferrari. Ferrari has 190 victories in F1 and Shu has 90 of them...say what you will but this guy is something. I doubt any of his numbers will ever be equaled with the trends in F1 these days...a privlege to have seen him run. Jim (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Five world titles and maybe six...
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smdubovsky |
Sep 10 2006, 08:50 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 331 Joined: 27-September 04 From: Silver Spring, MD Member No.: 2,837 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Was sad to watch that this morning. The end of an era for sure. Im rooting for the 8th (umm, hes already won 7) and then Kimi to get his first next year...
SMD |
So.Cal.914 |
Sep 10 2006, 12:20 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
It's kinda nice to have him retire alive, I have seen (in my life time) many F1
drivers retire the other. |
URY914 |
Sep 10 2006, 12:43 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 121,115 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Did MS ever do an autocross???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif)
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effutuo101 |
Sep 10 2006, 12:53 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
Shumi will be missed. I think that he he would make a great team lead...but it would sorta suck knowing that your boss could hop in the car and do better than you. Good Luck to him and it is nice to see him retire without getting the final checkout like his mentor.
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Jeroen |
Sep 10 2006, 01:08 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,887 Joined: 24-December 02 From: The Netherlands Member No.: 3 Region Association: Europe |
exit schumacher? really?
finally!!! |
Gustl |
Sep 10 2006, 01:54 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,531 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
exit schumacher? really? finally!!! yepp, that's what he said today after the race ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
effutuo101 |
Sep 10 2006, 02:59 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,735 Joined: 10-April 05 From: Lemon Grove Member No.: 3,914 Region Association: Southern California |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/hijacked.gif) did you see the tyre failure from Friday? the driver was going around on the just the side walls. No rubber inbetween and very little flex...and still going around faster than I could in a 914. Tyres have come a long way in 30 years.
I have been following Shumi for about 10 years, an Senna before him. I am not a rabid F1 fan, I just love watching these cars go.To bad the rules won't let these cars become all they can. The Polish driver Kubica and Button will be the guys to watch. Kimi is going to Ferrari, but will see how long it takes for him to get used to the 07 car. Nxt year is promising to be just as exciting as the last half of this year has been. I wonder if I could save enough money to go next year.... |
tracks914 |
Sep 10 2006, 03:42 PM
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Canadian Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,083 Joined: 15-January 03 From: Timmins, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 153 Region Association: None |
I for one will not miss him. Between him, Ferrari and the FIA doing everything they can to have him win his 8th just sickens me. The mass damper rule change 1/2 way through the season then a couple of questionable calls penalizing Alonso to give king Mikey a chance just ruins the F1 season. Too much politics in the F1 circus right now. Good buy Mikey and good luck, come and try WWF NASCAR for a change, see if you get the breaks across the pond.
Go Alonso go!!! |
dekman |
Sep 10 2006, 03:58 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 458 Joined: 12-December 04 From: Ojai,CA Member No.: 3,274 Region Association: None |
I have a feeling Michael will be back!........... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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wbergtho |
Sep 10 2006, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,314 Joined: 28-April 03 From: Roberts, WI Member No.: 623 |
I had the honor to see him "carve up" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) the competition at the American Grand Prix in Indy last year...you know the one where Schumy & Barrichelo paraded around the track because of the tire debacle! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) What an F1 race to pick. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif) Although it wasn't a race...it was still fun to watch...for about 5 minutes. Got my money back so I'm not pissed anymore. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Sammy |
Sep 10 2006, 06:18 PM
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. Group: Members Posts: 1,190 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Orange, Ca Member No.: 178 |
He's the best ever, F1 will be less without him.
Shoes so big to fill they will never be filled in my lifetime. |
nebreitling |
Sep 10 2006, 08:43 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
i don't think he's the best ever (though i respect him), and i won't miss him too much, but it definitely IS the end of an era... power to him.
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MattR |
Sep 10 2006, 08:49 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,279 Joined: 23-January 04 From: SF Bay Area Member No.: 1,589 Region Association: Northern California |
I for one will not miss him. Between him, Ferrari and the FIA doing everything they can to have him win his 8th just sickens me. The mass damper rule change 1/2 way through the season then a couple of questionable calls penalizing Alonso to give king Mikey a chance just ruins the F1 season. Too much politics in the F1 circus right now. Good buy Mikey and good luck, come and try WWF NASCAR for a change, see if you get the breaks across the pond. Go Alonso go!!! Its not Michael's fault. He just drives. I'm not a huge Schumi fan, nor am I a hater, but I am glad to see him go. There are 4-5 other drivers that are young and pretty well matched that will make the coming years very fun to watch. It still doesnt change the fact that Bernie is a cunt, but I will be watching every race I can next season (just like I have the last 5 years). |
SGB |
Sep 10 2006, 09:25 PM
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just visiting Group: Members Posts: 4,086 Joined: 8-March 03 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 404 Region Association: South East States |
Schumacher soured his image as a driver of infinite precision with his less than sportsmanlike behaviour. I'll remember him as an asshole, unfortunately.
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jimtab |
Sep 10 2006, 09:26 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 3,477 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Pacifica, California Member No.: 91 Region Association: Northern California |
I for one will not miss him. Between him, Ferrari and the FIA doing everything they can to have him win his 8th just sickens me. The mass damper rule change 1/2 way through the season then a couple of questionable calls penalizing Alonso to give king Mikey a chance just ruins the F1 season. Too much politics in the F1 circus right now. Good buy Mikey and good luck, come and try WWF NASCAR for a change, see if you get the breaks across the pond. Go Alonso go!!! OH YEAH, politics in F1 started with Schumi and Ferrari....been a fan long???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
John |
Sep 10 2006, 09:50 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
I just hate to see any great driver (and I do believe that he is a great driver) go away.
Just what does an ex F1 driver do for excitement? That would be a hard ride to give up. I suppose Ferrari would let him have track time as long as he wants some, but it still wouldn't be in competition.... I have no hard feelings for any of the drivers or teams in racing as I know it has almost always been about the money anyway. Still, it's fun for me to watch the drivers and the cars. What the hell else are you gonna watch NASCAR derby??? |
Gustl |
Sep 10 2006, 10:47 PM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,531 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
i don't think he's the best ever (though i respect him), and i won't miss him too much, but it definitely IS the end of an era... power to him. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
racerx9146 |
Sep 10 2006, 10:51 PM
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good design never goes out of date.. Group: Members Posts: 174 Joined: 1-January 04 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 1,483 Region Association: Northern California |
No matter what you think of some of his tactics, he is the best competitor F1 ever saw bar none, including, senna, fangio, etc..
F1 will not be the same next year... Its a sad day.... John |
Gustl |
Sep 11 2006, 02:01 AM
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914 enthusiast & historian Group: Members Posts: 11,531 Joined: 16-June 04 From: TIROL / Austria Member No.: 2,212 Region Association: Austria |
No matter what you think of some of his tactics, he is the best competitor F1 ever saw bar none, including, senna, fangio, etc.. F1 will not be the same next year... Its a sad day.... John I absolutely disagree ... There's no doubt that MSC ist the most successful driver ever, but I'd say he's far away from being the best driver ever. Very often he played absolutely unfair. He had the luck to go through an area where the driver didn't count that much. He had all the technique that made driving easier, he had the team with the best strategy, even if the car wasn't always the best. His team mates were not competitive - and if they had a good day, team order told them to stay behind him. Remember back for about 20 years. The drivers had to decide on their own what to do in their cars, without team radio. They had to decide how much rpm they have to use on start (without launch control) and in the corners (without anti wheel spin control) and they had to decide at what rpm to shift up and down. Not to speak from the manual shifting. In these days the whole races took place at the track, not at the pit. We saw more overtaking on the track, today everything's under control of the commanders in the pit. So the drivers just have to do what they're told. Well, I do know that it needs a good driver to do what the pit crew wants you to, but you don't need be that good as you had to be earlier. I think this is why we had more different champions in the past - and I think this will be the same in the future. I'd say, MSC is a brilliant driver. But he's not as good that he diserves being 7 or 8 times world champion. 3 or 4 times champion would be enaugh. just my 2 cent ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wavey.gif) Gustl |
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