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has anyone used these springs? |
mtrotter |
Oct 8 2006, 09:55 AM
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http://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stores/serv...ategoryId=12929
Im thinking they will work with... the stock perches.... any thoughts? |
drew365 |
Oct 8 2006, 10:46 AM
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These are the good old days! Group: Members Posts: 2,004 Joined: 29-December 02 From: Sunny So. Cal. Member No.: 37 |
What is the diameter of the springs? If they are 2.5", you need aftermarket perches and shocks.
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URY914 |
Oct 8 2006, 10:49 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,356 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
You need to know the inside and outside diameters before you do anything.
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914forme |
Oct 8 2006, 11:35 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I am taking a set out of my car today, I will let you know and take pictures post backup tonight. I am prepping to install a set of threaded bodies over my Bilstiens. QA1s are great spring for the $$, they are flat ground on each end. I am using hte 14" length, but in retro spec I should have went with a shorter spring and added a set of take up springs.
Jegs is local to me, so I get stuff same day if need be. |
nebreitling |
Oct 8 2006, 01:11 PM
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those won't work unless you have aftermarket perches on your shocks.
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Aaron Cox |
Oct 8 2006, 03:31 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
yep... 2.5 X length.. works with aftermarket perches
btw 914forme... i used 8" coils on my car and shoulda gone with 10's LOL 8 10 or 12" springs all work on bilsteins... |
914forme |
Oct 8 2006, 03:37 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Stock Shock cap is ~4"
Stock Spring Inside is ~3.25" QA1 OD = 3.45" the ID is 2.563" excatly. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Attached image(s) |
914forme |
Oct 8 2006, 03:40 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I added some 2.5" spacers to keep the springs center on the bilsteins. 14" springs means you can spin hte not down by hand to the last 1/2" turn, they you need a small wrench. This is with the collar at 1/2 way. My old 140lbs where also 14" long. But the problem is a 140 lbs spring will allwow the rear to sit a little lower than the 175 lbs will. Forgot that little detal. Yeap that is PVC Electrical conduit.
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Aaron Cox |
Oct 8 2006, 08:58 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
why not buy real coilover sleeves from coleman....
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nebreitling |
Oct 8 2006, 09:44 PM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
i'm with aaron on that one... a spring that slips on its perch can create some 'interesting' handling.
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Aaron Cox |
Oct 8 2006, 10:50 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
its like 40 bucks per side to do it right......
you got the springs... now get the right perches (and gain corner balancing and infintie ride height adjustability) cheap... and its made for the task. |
914forme |
Oct 9 2006, 09:15 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I am way ahead of you guys, I ordered them all ready, should be here today. That is why the rear shocks are off my car. When I put them together I had to do this, now I am fixing my issues. I know that will never happen (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
The Coleman pieces are the way togo, cheap, simple, proper solution. Mine was cheap, simple, but rigged to make to the next event. |
914forme |
Oct 9 2006, 02:57 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Colemann Parts came in (IMG:style_emoticons/default/boldblue.gif) I am off to the shop and see what I can figure out on the installation.
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J P Stein |
Oct 9 2006, 04:52 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
They can be installed properly (without the hat floppin' around) with a bit of messin' with em'.
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Rough_Rider |
Oct 9 2006, 05:22 PM
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Smurf Zone Group: Members Posts: 525 Joined: 16-August 04 From: Beaverton, OR Member No.: 2,547 |
Mini-tip: Don't wrench the zip ties down tight. Leave about 1/8" gap so springs can't move away from the hat's lip. Should prevent the ties frm breaking.
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914forme |
Oct 9 2006, 05:38 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
Okay so did you heat the sleave in the oven or with a torch? I used a oven first, and then got 2/3 of the way down, and then it stuck, so I grabbed my tourch.... Okay just to let you know I am classing myself as an Moron!!!! Got it to slip down and then I walked away to let it cool. Cameback an hour latter to find oil all over the floor.
Anybody know how to rebuild a Bilstein sport????? The DIY method would be great. How hot do you heat these to to get them on? My buddy suggesed honning them, press them on, and using red locktight, to set them. Hindsight is 20/20! |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 9 2006, 06:08 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
dude.. they slip right on. you bought the wrong collars....
2.04" ID are what i bought... and i bought the magic adapter ring for bilsteins to take up the slack..... not a press fit... loose... but not scary loose. LOTS of pics in my blog AA |
J P Stein |
Oct 9 2006, 06:25 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Okay so did you heat the sleave in the oven or with a torch? I used a oven first, and then got 2/3 of the way down, and then it stuck, so I grabbed my tourch.... Okay just to let you know I am classing myself as an Moron!!!! Got it to slip down and then I walked away to let it cool. Cameback an hour latter to find oil all over the floor. Anybody know how to rebuild a Bilstein sport????? The DIY method would be great. How hot do you heat these to to get them on? My buddy suggesed honning them, press them on, and using red locktight, to set them. Hindsight is 20/20! Hummm.......no. You need to give the Coleman folks the OD of your socks.....a tad over 2 inches, IIRC. The proper threaded sleeves are about .03/.04 ID larger than the shock. I used plastic shim stock to fill the gap twixt the 2. It appears you have the wrong ones. Bilstein will rebuild/revalve your shocks for 65 bucks + parts. Bilstein West In Poway, CA. 1 800 537 1085 Since one is hosed, you may as well send both & have them revalved. You need to tell them your spring rates & weight of your car and usage (AX?) |
Aaron Cox |
Oct 9 2006, 06:29 PM
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Professional Lawn Dart Group: Retired Admin Posts: 24,541 Joined: 1-February 03 From: OC Member No.: 219 Region Association: Southern California |
JP... 2.04" is the number... and the number shall be 2.04"
my collars were a little loose... they sell an adapter ring that sits on the stock bilsteing spring clip but takes upthe gap between the coleman collar and the bilstein shcok...... ID of adapter = bilstein OD OD of adapter = ID of collar 5 bucks each... from coleman. |
J P Stein |
Oct 9 2006, 06:41 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
I know....that's good for the bottom, but what about the top?
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