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GT lower valance, is this a good choice for the track? |
914forme |
Oct 20 2006, 07:25 PM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None |
I think your onto something there trekkor!
Oh Maybe a nice round over with your router, and you are good to go. You could get the dark fiberglass mat, that makes it look like carbon fiber and glass it with the resin and a UV stabilizer. Or use the Plywood as a pattren and cut it out something else. No angle of attack needed, if I remeber correctly. I am thinking that if you scrap plywood and fiber glass, it is pretty easily repaired. It might just keep your sweeper in place, at speed, thou I might condiser some bracing, casue if that thing bends down and catches, you are in for a ride. Ever seen a 914 play leap frog with its spoiler? Oh, you where already having an issue with too much front downforce compared to the rear???? You might need to up the rear wing a bit, to compinsate for the front. |
DanT |
Oct 20 2006, 08:59 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
So Trek,
now you have to worry about dry rot and termites along with the rust (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Now are you going to attach it to the air dam? And what about support so it does not deform at speed? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Trekkor |
Oct 20 2006, 09:33 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I plan on using adjustable braces out front. Turnbuckles attached to "u-bolts" at 45 degree angles...As many as four of them.
Behind each Dzus fastener is an "L" bracket bolted through the splitter and through the rubber skirting of the Sweeper. I will also add bracing behind the rubber so it does not deform. I'll need to do some "vineyard testing", of course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) KT |
DanT |
Oct 20 2006, 09:38 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
I plan on using adjustable braces out front. Turnbuckles attached to "u-bolts" at 45 degree angles...As many as four of them. Behind each Dzus fastener is an "L" bracket bolted through the splitter and through the rubber skirting of the Sweeper. I will also add bracing behind the rubber so it does not deform. I'll need to do some "vineyard testing", of course. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) KT Why are you looking for more front down force (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) |
Trekkor |
Oct 20 2006, 09:47 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm not sure how this is going to feel.
I'm looking for more stability, less air under the car and more air into the cooler. I may add a four inch tall adjustable plexi rear spoiler extention. What do you think I will experience with this new set-up? KT |
DanT |
Oct 20 2006, 09:59 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
If you use just the splitter, you will feel more lightness in the rear at speed.
Balancing it with more rear spoiler will probably help, but you will also be generating more drag (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) If it were me I would go to a more conventional front spoiler (HPH) or Le type with your small duck tail....I think the car would be more balanced that way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) IMHO. I ran my RSR spoiler for 4+ years with no rear spoiler and had no problems other than high speed lightness in the rear end, above 100mph... Nascar turn at BW and main straight. Main straight at Laguna and both straights at TH. It was drivable but probably would have benefitted with a small rear spoiler to balance at high speeds. |
Trekkor |
Oct 20 2006, 10:12 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I have another LE front spoiler.
I think I will set it up for the brake and oil cooling inlets and compare feel and lap times before modifying the rear spoiler. Does that sound like a good idea? Will you come to Sears on the 12th? The Spec Boxter Plus™ will be there, too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) KT |
DanT |
Oct 20 2006, 10:26 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
I have another LE front spoiler. I think I will set it up for the brake and oil cooling inlets and compare feel and lap times before modifying the rear spoiler. Does that sound like a good idea? Will you come to Sears on the 12th? The Spec Boxter Plus™ will be there, too. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) KT I think that would be a good comparison Have both with you to interchange in see which feels better overall. I'll have to check my social calander (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) what group are you running with? |
Trekkor |
Oct 20 2006, 10:31 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
This is another Trackmasters event along with SVR/PCA.
KT |
turboman808 |
Oct 21 2006, 03:58 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,718 Joined: 31-January 06 From: North Jersey Member No.: 5,505 Region Association: North East States |
Thanks for point the thread out to me Trekkor.
I'm sorta doing the same thing. Slowly trying to get everything togeher though. The metal guys are really taking there sweet time getting the aliminum sheet over to me though. Slowly gonna become a winter project. Figured aluminum would be a good choice because if it got bent I could just hammer it back into place. If it was real back I could just whip out the tig and fix it. I'm going to fasten it at the back to the car but I wasn't thinking to use turnbuckles on the front. That might be a good idea because all that holding the airdam to the bumper is some tiny rivets. I could see the downforce ripping the nose right off wouldn't that be fun!!! Still haven't decided what to do in back. Tall wing for optimal downforce or rear lip because it looks pretty. Anyways where do you guys get those turnbuckles at??? |
Trekkor |
Oct 22 2006, 08:24 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I found mine at OSH.
I still need the u-bolts for mounting. KT |
maf914 |
Oct 23 2006, 12:03 PM
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Not a Guru! Group: Members Posts: 3,049 Joined: 30-April 03 From: Central Florida Member No.: 632 Region Association: None |
So Trek, now you have to worry about dry rot and termites along with the rust (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Trekkor is moving into Marcos territory. For years that British sports car company built their chassis using plywood with I think fiberglass body shells. Wierd looking cars. Everything could be found at Home Depot. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) |
Trekkor |
Oct 23 2006, 05:16 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I'm assembling the whole thing today, so watch for the pics in another thread.
And, my old boat's main understructure was wood with fiberglass overlayed. ( '77 FiberForm ) KT |
Brad Roberts |
Oct 23 2006, 05:34 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Members Posts: 19,148 Joined: 23-December 02 Member No.: 8 Region Association: None |
We used 1/2 inch plywood per the Porsche factory recommendation on a 00 GT3R at Laguna Seca. It was mounted behind the nose and the splitter to add more weight on the nose of the car...LOL
Looks good Trekkor. I would'nt have used the flex dam.. but it should work. B |
race914 |
Oct 23 2006, 05:43 PM
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73 914-4 Group: Members Posts: 1,006 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Nipomo, California (Central Coast) Member No.: 5,027 Region Association: Central California |
Trekkor,
Hope to see you at Laguna with "Leadfoot Adventures" on 11/2. We can compare front splitters & lap times! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) Greg (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-5027-1161038482.jpg) |
carr914 |
Oct 24 2006, 12:08 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,356 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
Here is the version I made, with GT valance with an AIR? valance molded on. Unfortunately it was too low for driving on the street and is now gone.
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carr914 |
Oct 24 2006, 12:12 PM
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Racer from Birth Group: Members Posts: 118,356 Joined: 2-February 04 From: Tampa,FL Member No.: 1,623 Region Association: South East States |
another view during construction
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