 Has anyone tried lately to . . . ., Any recent windshield rubber selas sources ??? |
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| GTPatrick |
  Nov 9 2006, 12:27 PM
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Member  Group: Members Posts: 245 Joined: 8-September 05 From: Memphis, Tn. Member No.: 4,768 Region Association: None  |
Has anyone lately tried to find a source for windshield rubber seals and clips lately in say the past 6 months ??? Yeah, I did a search for the last 6 months but no one had found anything except the word " NLA " .
Are there any after market sources or maybe some other car's seals/clips that can be used on a 914 ??? Didn't one of the Club members try to order some from Germany in a bulk order to sell thru the club website ? Was he successful in getting some or did he finbd out antoher German word for NLA ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif) Or are we all doomed when it comes to windshield rubber seals and clips ??? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) Thanks for any input here . |
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| Bartlett 914 |
Nov 9 2006, 01:39 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,216 Joined: 30-August 05 From: South Elgin IL Member No.: 4,707 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
O.K. I just have to ask.. does anyone know how these are made? Is it done in a mold or are they extruded. Does a mold really cost that much to have made? Lastly, what material are they made of (and don't say rubber). I am sure is is something like Buna or Viton. It would be nice to know if Porsche is dropping this or not. It would be terrible to invest in making these and then Porsche makes them available. These could have been produced in the time that everyone has been waiting. I will need 2 ar some time or other.
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| GWN7 |
Nov 9 2006, 01:54 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
There is a NLA original one in perfect condishion sitting at my P.O. Box in the USA.
When I am able to drive there to get it, hopefuly soon. I expect to start reproducing them by the end of December. |
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| jimkelly |
Nov 9 2006, 02:25 PM
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Delaware USA Group: Members Posts: 4,969 Joined: 5-August 04 From: Delaware, USA Member No.: 2,460 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
any idea on price?
you knwo the ones AA made were crap - glued areas came apart fast. Jim -- QUOTE(GWN7 @ Nov 9 2006, 11:54 AM)  There is a NLA original one in perfect condishion sitting at my P.O. Box in the USA. When I am able to drive there to get it, hopefuly soon. I expect to start reproducing them by the end of December. |
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| GWN7 |
Nov 9 2006, 04:46 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
No idea on price till I build one. I buy my material by the gram. Build one, weigh it and do the math........
As to the glueing, I can't see that being a problem. The glue I use for the front trunk seal is stronger than the material it's made from. Andy tested it at the RRC and tore the sample I had with me in two. The material tore but the glue held. Any glue process depends on proper prep of the materials being stuck together. |
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| Allan |
Nov 9 2006, 05:28 PM
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Teenerless Weenie Group: Members Posts: 8,373 Joined: 5-July 04 From: Western Mesopotamia Member No.: 2,304 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(GWN7 @ Nov 9 2006, 11:54 AM) I expect to start reproducing them by the end of December. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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| SLITS |
Nov 9 2006, 06:17 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None  |
QUOTE(GWN7 @ Nov 9 2006, 02:46 PM) I buy my material by the gram. Damn, you must be filthy rich .... I buy my stuff by the 1/4 gram and it's really expensive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) |
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| GWN7 |
Nov 9 2006, 06:27 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
QUOTE(SLITS @ Nov 9 2006, 04:17 PM) QUOTE(GWN7 @ Nov 9 2006, 02:46 PM) I buy my material by the gram. Damn, you must be filthy rich .... I buy my stuff by the 1/4 gram and it's really expensive. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smoke.gif) You should Grow Your Own ....much cheaper (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| neo914-6 |
Nov 9 2006, 06:57 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
QUOTE(GWN7 @ Nov 9 2006, 02:46 PM) No idea on price till I build one. I buy my material by the gram. Build one, weigh it and do the math........ As to the glueing, I can't see that being a problem. The glue I use for the front trunk seal is stronger than the material it's made from. Andy tested it at the RRC and tore the sample I had with me in two. The material tore but the glue held. Any glue process depends on proper prep of the materials being stuck together. Bruce, Do you make the front trunk seal too? I need one headlight delete. I could buy another repro and glue it together. Care to sell me the glue? Are you going to tool up for the windshield seal? |
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| snflupigus |
Nov 9 2006, 07:38 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 320 Joined: 29-May 05 From: Gilbert, AZ Member No.: 4,163 Region Association: None |
buy it by the ounce, sell it by the gram.... those are rap song lyrics LOL
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| GWN7 |
Nov 9 2006, 08:30 PM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:57 PM) Bruce, Do you make the front trunk seal too? I need one headlight delete. I could buy another repro and glue it together. Care to sell me the glue? Yes, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=63207 Give me the dimensions you need and I'll make you a custom one. Measure from the outside edges. QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:57 PM) Are you going to tool up for the windshield seal? Yes |
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| neo914-6 |
Nov 9 2006, 11:09 PM
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neo life Group: Members Posts: 5,086 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Willow Glen (San Jose) Member No.: 159 |
QUOTE(GWN7 @ Nov 9 2006, 06:30 PM) QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:57 PM) Bruce, Do you make the front trunk seal too? I need one headlight delete. I could buy another repro and glue it together. Care to sell me the glue? Yes, http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=63207 Give me the dimensions you need and I'll make you a custom one. Measure from the outside edges. QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:57 PM) Are you going to tool up for the windshield seal? Yes (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) how about the door horizontal seals? I need them longer... |
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| boxstr |
Nov 9 2006, 11:20 PM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
SEMA always has a few foreign vendors who are their with a build it and they will buy it attitude. This year a vendor was their who will manufacture rubber seals.
The real problem lies in the fact that they require a first run of 400 seals to make it worth doing. I have found that everyone is all for it until the bill comes and the real cost is defined. I don't want to have 400 seals siting around, they are noisy and they eat stinky fish (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) I am afraid that the cost will end out being more than most people will want to spend. $400-500 each. So until I find a vendor who will make a smaller first run the seals will continue to be NLA. CCLINSEALED |
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| Tobra |
Nov 10 2006, 12:56 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,453 Joined: 22-August 05 From: Sacramento, CA Member No.: 4,634 |
Auto Atlanta used to say 6 months, said that for a few years, now they say 2-3 weeks.
Go Bruce, you rock |
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| LvSteveH |
Nov 10 2006, 01:10 AM
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I put the Poor in Porsche Group: Members Posts: 1,080 Joined: 22-April 03 From: Las Vegas, Nevada Member No.: 600 |
Someone can make a few bucks with the seals, there is sufficient demand and at a price point of $250, they would sell pretty well if the quality was there.
At $500 you'd sell maybe 15 in a year. At $250 over 100 a year would be conservative. |
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| PRS914-6 |
Nov 10 2006, 09:34 AM
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Excellence Magazine Project 914 3.6 Group: Retired Members Posts: 1,278 Joined: 20-May 06 From: Central California Member No.: 6,031 Region Association: None  |
I have a pretty good relationship with a Porsche parts guy. He tells me the part is NOT NLA, still a valid number but out of stock. Maybe forever or maybe not, nobody seems to know. He feels Porsche will eventually make them since it is still active and suggested I wait.
Another thought......everyone order one from Porsche. It will get back ordered of course but if Porsche has hundreds of back orders, it might get them more motivated to get them done. Let's face it, if there is a demand and they will make money, they will most likely produce them. Since the Porsche inventory shows 0, I doubt if any Porsche dealer will even ask for a deposit when you ordered. |
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| SLITS |
Nov 10 2006, 10:01 AM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(PRS914-6 @ Nov 10 2006, 07:34 AM) Since the Porsche inventory shows 0, I doubt if any Porsche dealer will even ask for a deposit when you ordered. I have 50 seals on order thru Porsche Germany .... the deposit was $5K. Order was placed in April. 5 ship dates have come and gone. Last word was Porsche couldn't get the original supplier to make them so they had to find another manufacturer. The way I figure it, I can kiss $5K gone. So much for not requiring a deposit. |
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| cooltimes |
Nov 10 2006, 10:07 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,508 Joined: 18-May 04 Member No.: 2,081 Region Association: None |
Do you have to cut or bisect the seals you will need to make the clone seals molds for?
MikeCool QUOTE(GWN7 @ Nov 9 2006, 04:46 PM) No idea on price till I build one. I buy my material by the gram. Build one, weigh it and do the math........ As to the glueing, I can't see that being a problem. The glue I use for the front trunk seal is stronger than the material it's made from. Andy tested it at the RRC and tore the sample I had with me in two. The material tore but the glue held. Any glue process depends on proper prep of the materials being stuck together. |
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| GWN7 |
Nov 10 2006, 11:09 AM
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King of Road Trips Group: Members Posts: 6,280 Joined: 31-December 02 From: Winnipeg, MB, Canada Member No.: 56 Region Association: Northstar Region |
QUOTE(cooltimes @ Nov 10 2006, 08:07 AM) Do you have to cut or bisect the seals you will need to make the clone seals molds for? MikeCool I hope not to. I don't want to destroy the one good OEM one that was lent to me to see if I can make these (I don't think the owner would be happy if I hacked up his) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) I have a good one on one car but didn't want to possibly wreck it taking it off. I should be able to profile sections of it without damaging it. I might have to make several molds to get each profile right but that's the nature of reconstructing things. To get the window end caps perfect I made several attempts (6) before I got it right. Part of getting them perfect was having the right equipment. Which I believe I have now. Bruce |
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| McMark |
Nov 10 2006, 09:29 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
Want some crap seals to get profiles off of? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)
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