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> wear your safety equipment ..., while working on the car ...
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post Nov 9 2006, 09:07 PM
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so, i went to mcmark's shop today to work on my car. mostly prep work for the engine test-fit.

lots of cutting sheetmetal and grinding down spotwelds etc. then on to cutting out the /4 motor mounts with the plasma cutter.

i *thought* i had it all covered, safety wise, got the goggles, gloves, noise protection ...
spent about 5 hours cutting & grinding.

then, on my drive home, it felt like i had a sunburn on my arms, but i couldn't really see anything.

so after i got home, i take a shower and now i can clearly see that both of my forearms are *covered* with thousands(!) of tiny burn marks! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif)

should have worn something with long sleeves, damm 914club t-shirt ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Andy
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post Nov 9 2006, 09:17 PM
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Get some welding leathers, kind of hot inside, but very effective in stopping both UV burns, and thermal burns from flying molten metal. you'll need to drink a lot of water to [prevent over heating in them on a hot day, but they can save your skin. Try aloe verra gel on your burns, helps them feel better, and maybe heal faster at least the arm burns are better than UV eye burns, them is very painful.
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post Nov 9 2006, 09:33 PM
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When I took an intro weld class, they said one of the worst is getting a hot spark in your ear, or worstest, a bit of molten metal can burn through your ear drum. Cotton only beanie or hat. They actually mentioned this about welding cars because you often shove your head in close to see in tough places. The welders mask doesn't necessarily cover your ears. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)

C'mon where's the pics? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Nov 9 2006, 09:36 PM
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Yup yup..

Instead of leathers, use the green fabric stuff.. Breathes really well. They have sleaves with expandable ends that work awesome!!

That being said, I weld and grid constantly all day long, I have a noticable "welders tan".. Left hand has a glove line, right hand is slightly darker.. (no glove sometimes..)

Aloe Vera... awesome stuff.. Get the green kind with bubbles in it.. only stuff thats worth putting on.. After that.. go for a walk (5 mins) cools your arms like crazy.. come back, re apply... repeat.

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post Nov 9 2006, 10:06 PM
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The green stuff is DYED green. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)

More importantly, find some that is 100% Aloe Vera. No stupid additives to make your brain happy, just the shit that works on your burnt skin.

And I would just wear long sleeves for grinding.

Andy, BTDT too many times to even remember to warn you. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pinch.gif)
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post Nov 9 2006, 10:08 PM
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post Nov 9 2006, 10:17 PM
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I think for you Cali guys the green welders jacket is a better idea. I bought the leathers for welding underneath my lift and it is hotter than hell in the summer time.

Always wear ear plugs when welding, problem solved.

Oh yeah don't weld in tennis shoes a molten piece of metal can burn through your shoes, socks and then onto your foot. But sandals are OK.
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post Nov 9 2006, 10:18 PM
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go down to T-town and get a cheap suede jacket. great for welding.
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post Nov 9 2006, 10:43 PM
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I learned the hard way welding can cause sunburns. Wearing a tank top and running shorts was really really bad. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Nov 9 2006, 10:55 PM
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The test of a welder's commitment is when a huge chunk of slag is burning a hole through you.... and you suck it up and finished running the bead without stopping (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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post Nov 9 2006, 11:04 PM
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I thought I would save time by welding WITHOUT a welders mask and just by closing my eyes.

Worked great, went very well....I had a real nice sun burn all over my face and I got welder poisioning i think.
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post Nov 10 2006, 12:05 AM
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No Mask!! Just you wait til you get a flash.....once was enough for me....and Andy, you can't ALWAYS wear the sleeveless stuff (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif)
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post Nov 10 2006, 12:24 AM
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When I worked at the shipyard, I got flash burns several times from other welders. We worked in close quarters sometimes and you'd catch their arc. Flash drops only work for about 20 minutes at a time.

Oh, and please cover up guys and gals. Skin cancer is a serious issue.
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post Nov 10 2006, 12:35 AM
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I heard about flash burns. thats where you dont close yoru eyes before the arc starts, and you get burned?

Eyes getting sun burned? YIKES! Something about raw potatoes

After that day I wore my mask.
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post Nov 10 2006, 12:59 AM
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Your eyes can get burned through your eyelids. Closing your eyes is not protecting them when it comes to welding.
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post Nov 10 2006, 01:09 AM
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post Nov 10 2006, 01:13 AM
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A few years ago I was helping my friend do some tig welding on our go karts.
Even thou I turned away while he was welding the white part of my eyes was
still exposed to the arc. My eyes got burned and that night was the worse night
ever. It felt like they were cover in sand and the tears made them sting even
worse. Never going to do that again.
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post Nov 10 2006, 07:44 AM
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Eh, when I weld I have at least long sleeves , a hat and mask, and gloves. When I grind, I have goggles, gloves and my shooting ear muffs on. When the weather is at least 70 or under, I also wear overalls. I am deaf enough as it is to want to loose any more hearing. And burns suck, so I try to avoid them.

I tent to wear the same denim shirt when I weld, and it has thousands of little burn holes in the arms. Soon I am going to have to retire it and put another into use.

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post Nov 10 2006, 08:10 AM
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I got into a flame war (I know you're surprized) with a bozo on another forum. He said the best thing he ever bought at Harbor Fright was a $30 self darking welding mask. I told him is a dumbass if he is trusting his eyes to a POS from HF. One guy said "if it wasn't safe they wouldn't be selling it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/screwy.gif)

Remember, safety first and sometimes you need to pay a few dollars more for it.
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post Nov 10 2006, 08:46 AM
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Paul..

Those masks acutally are nice..

used one for about 2 months (for hours daily..) without any fail.. Actually it was TOO sensitive.. any little light and it would darken on you..

Mark, Im saying the green jackets because their nicer in the summer and are lighter weight, and they breath.. Their not leather, its a lightweight fabric.
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