 Tube Frame cars, When is it, when isn't it? |
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| Mike T |
 Mar 6 2003, 06:56 PM
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can't 'member  Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Brackney, PA Member No.: 161  |
Do the PCA and POC have clearly defined rules for when a car is considered tube frame construction?
Do you have to start with a pile of tubing and contain no original tub structure? Or can you add enough tubes to a stock tub to cause it to be considered a tube frame car? Mike T. |
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| ChrisFoley |
Mar 6 2003, 09:32 PM
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I am Tangerine Racing Group: Members Posts: 7,910 Joined: 29-January 03 From: Bolton, CT Member No.: 209 Region Association: None 
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In PCA Racing the rules for all the GT classes require the tub to be intact from shock tower to shock tower, however some allowance is given for suspension upgrades which alter the shock mounting, eg. coilovers. Also the bodywork must be recognizable as that model Porsche, such as used in other race series or historic racing.
Cars modified in excess of those rules are placed in GTP, regardless of performance potential, and race with 962's etc. |
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| MJHanna |
Mar 7 2003, 07:50 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
Read the PCA club rules, a true tub car like Brads is NOT PCA legal in GT, the one that I have for sale is more what PCA would consider Legal. http://www.pca.org/pca/clubrace/ The cause of the definition was when Bob Norwood created DOOM II to club race PCA. http://www.bobnorwood.com/Norwood%20Album.htm see the car in picture “Texas World Speedway 1997” They said it was not in the “spirit” of Club racing. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/finger.gif)
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| seanery |
Mar 7 2003, 09:19 AM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Is this supposed to be based on a teener?
(IMG:http://www.bobnorwood.com/Images/doom.jpg) |
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| MJHanna |
Mar 7 2003, 09:30 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
I can’t remember if the front shock towers and the firewall were either a 911 or a 914, the engine was a 944 turbo with a Tiltion clutch mated to a G-50 trans mount mid engine. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
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| MJHanna |
Mar 7 2003, 09:43 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
The evolution went like this: (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif)
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| MJHanna |
Mar 7 2003, 09:44 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
then Doom 1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fighting19.gif)
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| echocanyons |
Mar 7 2003, 09:45 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California 
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The Doom II car had FI inspired suspension.
Excellence did a article on it a few years back that car was Genius unfotunately the only thing that resembled Porsche were the 911 doors |
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| echocanyons |
Mar 7 2003, 09:46 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California
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If I remember right it was stolen and never recovered
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| MJHanna |
Mar 7 2003, 09:59 AM
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Does this 911 make my butt look big? Group: Members Posts: 805 Joined: 23-January 03 From: Lowry Crossing, Texas Member No.: 185 |
It was Doom1 (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
"Norwood's $500,000 Porsche creation made its appearance in 1995 - the racer DOOM. It was a supercar with ultra-high-tech fabrication utilizing components, of Indy cars and other radical cars put to use in a new way. The 3.6 supercharged engine designed to last 24 minutes did the job beating every competitor. The record remains unbroken. DOOM, named after the biggest selling computer game of all time that helped to finance it, disappeared on July 31, 1995 - stolen from outside Norwood's fabricating shop and not seen since." |
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| SirAndy |
Mar 7 2003, 12:13 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,606 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(MJHanna @ Mar 7 2003, 07:59 AM) DOOM, named after the biggest selling computer game of all time that helped to finance it, disappeared on July 31, 1995 - stolen from outside Norwood's fabricating shop and not seen since. i bet John Carmack stole it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) man, i miss those DOOM weekends. played from friday afternoon til monday morning, non-stop, just pizza and pee-breaks ... ahhh, the good old days! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mueba.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/fighting19.gif) |
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| seanery |
Mar 7 2003, 01:11 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
Andy,
Counterstrike and Day of Defeat! I start playing after work and look up at the clock and it's been 5 or 6 hours!! |
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| SirAndy |
Mar 7 2003, 01:19 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,606 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(seanery @ Mar 7 2003, 11:11 AM) I start playing after work and look up at the clock and it's been 5 or 6 hours!! yepp, time flies when you play. i'm still doing the occasional Quake3 Arena or Team-Arena, but these kids are getting better by the week. (or is it me getting old?) "Return to Castle Wolfenstein" has the best single-player story/play i have seen so far ... back to work ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) |
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| seanery |
Mar 7 2003, 01:23 PM
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waiting to rebuild whitey! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 15,841 Joined: 7-January 03 From: Indy Member No.: 100 Region Association: None |
I wasnt too impressed with Return (the mac version). I was outputting some video on the pc so I couldn't play anything on it.
Have you tried CS or DOD? |
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| SirAndy |
Mar 7 2003, 01:34 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,606 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(seanery @ Mar 7 2003, 11:23 AM) I wasnt too impressed with Return (the mac version). I was outputting some video on the pc so I couldn't play anything on it. Have you tried CS or DOD? dunno about the MAC version. think you need a nice video card though (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) i just put it on hardest setting and played through it in one weekend (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif) i really liked the missions, graphics, ambient etc., only thing that was disappointing was the end. that guy was way to easy to beat. yeah, played CS a lot. don't anymore. too many bots and cheaters. same with Quake3, somehow takes the fun out of it ... |
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