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| grantsfo |
 Dec 1 2006, 12:33 AM
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Arrrrhhhh!  Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None  |
I'll plan to go to the GGR events if it isnt to much of a hassel. I'll have to learn T Hill since I have never been to that track. I'll need to rescore my car with new motor and tranny.
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| DanT |
Dec 1 2006, 12:40 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Grant,
just get in line with all the other 914s, learn the line and then you will be waiving bye bye (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) to the rest of us....catch us as you come around to lap us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I will be anxious to see your car next season Grant....when do you start work on it? I am going over to BillDs this Saturday AM to help him install his 3.2 twin plugged fire breather in his 914-6 that he is preparing to compete against the smurf for TTOD next season. it will be great fun to get a bunch of us out there again... there is a picture from about 8 years ago a TH. ~25+ 914s lined up on the grid at TH. All cars were competing that weekend. everything from stockish 1.7s all the way to semi tubed 3.4L big ass slicks. it was quite a picture...hopefully Greg Braun, race914 will find it one of these days and post it....you would all be very impressed. |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 1 2006, 12:43 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
The first TT of '07 at Sears in Feb is just around the corner.
Yay!! KT |
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| DanT |
Dec 1 2006, 12:45 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 10:43 PM)  The first TT of '07 at Sears in Feb is just around the corner. Yay!! KT Make sure to show up with a set of tires with lots of tread on them (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) last year and the year before there was standing water in several places on the track including the apex of ten. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 1 2006, 12:54 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
TH is a fantastic venue.
A great track to learn about the limits of your car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Just wait 'til you go through 8, "flat". KT |
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| grantsfo |
Dec 1 2006, 12:57 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Nov 30 2006, 10:40 PM) Grant, just get in line with all the other 914s, learn the line and then you will be waiving bye bye (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) to the rest of us....catch us as you come around to lap us (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I will be anxious to see your car next season Grant....when do you start work on it? I am going over to BillDs this Saturday AM to help him install his 3.2 twin plugged fire breather in his 914-6 that he is preparing to compete against the smurf for TTOD next season. it will be great fun to get a bunch of us out there again... there is a picture from about 8 years ago a TH. ~25+ 914s lined up on the grid at TH. All cars were competing that weekend. everything from stockish 1.7s all the way to semi tubed 3.4L big ass slicks. it was quite a picture...hopefully Greg Braun, race914 will find it one of these days and post it....you would all be very impressed. Work starts this weekend. High compression 2.4 S twin plug motor build. MSX tranny is built. Doing some suspension tuning with firmer springs. |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 1 2006, 12:57 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE lots of tread I know. I have the video. I think this is going to be a dry winter. KT |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 1 2006, 01:03 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
As long as we focus on being safe and having fun on track the GGR classes will not really mean much.
KT |
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| DanT |
Dec 1 2006, 01:11 AM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 11:03 PM) As long as we focus on being safe and having fun on track the GGR classes will not really mean much. KT exactly. I would just like to see alot of the folks here on the 914 site that are in Norcal to start to come out and compete/participate. Be it in AX or TT there are lots of 914s here that need to be driven hard for a change. There is always lots of talk but very little follow thru (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) 5 TT/DEs 9AXs just from GGR let alone all the other Zone 7 regions that put on events. Come on folks get out there and meet some other 914 folks and drive that car. Pancakes are OK but surely the Norcal contingent can drive these little cars too. OK off my soapbox...I will go back on my meds now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Randal |
Dec 1 2006, 10:38 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 10:54 PM) TH is a fantastic venue. A great track to learn about the limits of your car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Just wait 'til you go through 8, "flat". KT I'd wait until my tires got real warm before trying 8 flat out. Also I'd creep up on it, given your heaver car. See if you can get John Sidel to be your instructor. |
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| race914 |
Dec 1 2006, 10:46 AM
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73 914-4 Group: Members Posts: 1,006 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Nipomo, California (Central Coast) Member No.: 5,027 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Nov 30 2006, 11:11 PM) QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 11:03 PM) As long as we focus on being safe and having fun on track the GGR classes will not really mean much. KT exactly. I would just like to see alot of the folks here on the 914 site that are in Norcal to start to come out and compete/participate. Be it in AX or TT there are lots of 914s here that need to be driven hard for a change. There is always lots of talk but very little follow thru (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) 5 TT/DEs 9AXs just from GGR let alone all the other Zone 7 regions that put on events. Come on folks get out there and meet some other 914 folks and drive that car. Pancakes are OK but surely the Norcal contingent can drive these little cars too. OK off my soapbox...I will go back on my meds now. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) All it means to me is I have to make new class stickers. It will fun to have more 914s at the events in 07. Tricia and I are looking forward to it! |
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| nebreitling |
Dec 1 2006, 11:22 AM
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Member Emeritus Group: Members Posts: 3,314 Joined: 26-March 03 From: San Francisco Member No.: 478 |
QUOTE(Randal @ Dec 1 2006, 08:38 AM) QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 10:54 PM) TH is a fantastic venue. A great track to learn about the limits of your car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Just wait 'til you go through 8, "flat". KT I'd wait until my tires got real warm before trying 8 flat out. Also I'd creep up on it, given your heaver car. that, and grant's car should be significantly faster then trek's. turn 8 flat out in a sorted, 230 hp car? might be close. |
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| Randal |
Dec 1 2006, 12:51 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(nebreitling @ Dec 1 2006, 09:22 AM) QUOTE(Randal @ Dec 1 2006, 08:38 AM) QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 10:54 PM) TH is a fantastic venue. A great track to learn about the limits of your car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Just wait 'til you go through 8, "flat". KT I'd wait until my tires got real warm before trying 8 flat out. Also I'd creep up on it, given your heaver car. that, and grant's car should be significantly faster then trek's. turn 8 flat out in a sorted, 230 hp car? might be close. Given the run up from 6 you have lots of time to gain speed before 8. 230HP in a light weight 914 sounds like he’ll be north of a ton, so 8 will keep him honest. But it sure is fun watching all those 911 drop back 6-8 car lengths as you go through flat out. |
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| DanT |
Dec 1 2006, 02:44 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Randal @ Dec 1 2006, 08:38 AM) QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 10:54 PM) TH is a fantastic venue. A great track to learn about the limits of your car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Just wait 'til you go through 8, "flat". KT I'd wait until my tires got real warm before trying 8 flat out. Also I'd creep up on it, given your heaver car. See if you can get John Sidel to be your instructor. Randal, I was the one who taught John to go thru 8 flat out....,years ago when he was still driving the green 2.0L Grants car given enough HP with the rebuild will be a bit too quick to try that move at least initially. It is safer to do now with the extra run off room. Years ago it was just the hill side and lots of rocks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) I think a judicious lift or quick stab of the brakes will be beneficial for Grant or anyone else starting out at TH. Slow and steady improvement is the key.. always (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 1 2006, 03:20 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
It was several trips over two years before "flat in 8" was possible for me.
Riding with John Seidel was what got me thinking about it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Still, I don't attempt it until midway through the session. Scary... KT |
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| Randal |
Dec 1 2006, 06:09 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,446 Joined: 29-May 03 From: Los Altos, CA Member No.: 750 |
QUOTE(Dan (Almaden Valley) @ Dec 1 2006, 12:44 PM) QUOTE(Randal @ Dec 1 2006, 08:38 AM) QUOTE(trekkor @ Nov 30 2006, 10:54 PM) TH is a fantastic venue. A great track to learn about the limits of your car (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) Just wait 'til you go through 8, "flat". KT I'd wait until my tires got real warm before trying 8 flat out. Also I'd creep up on it, given your heaver car. See if you can get John Sidel to be your instructor. Randal, I was the one who taught John to go thru 8 flat out....,years ago when he was still driving the green 2.0L Grants car given enough HP with the rebuild will be a bit too quick to try that move at least initially. It is safer to do now with the extra run off room. Years ago it was just the hill side and lots of rocks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) I think a judicious lift or quick stab of the brakes will be beneficial for Grant or anyone else starting out at TH. Slow and steady improvement is the key.. always (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) When we get the little 2.4 going on the track Dan I'm hoping you'll be my instructor. Somehow I don't think I'll be going around 8 flat out with the new motor and lighter car; at least not for a bit. BTW John also taught me how to do 7 flat out going backwards. Did he also learn that one from you? |
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| DanT |
Dec 1 2006, 06:52 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) both directions (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 24 2006, 08:27 PM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,592 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California 
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Just spun up my points based on what I am doing over the winter. Question for your GGR heads... I gave myself mod points for non stock induction. I will be going to Dellorto carbs and ditching the EFI. Is this a correct application of this section. Or did I just 'fess up to non-existant forced induction?
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| race914 |
Dec 24 2006, 09:12 PM
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73 914-4 Group: Members Posts: 1,006 Joined: 31-October 05 From: Nipomo, California (Central Coast) Member No.: 5,027 Region Association: Central California |
QUOTE(Rotten Robby @ Dec 24 2006, 06:27 PM) Just spun up my points based on what I am doing over the winter. Question for your GGR heads... I gave myself mod points for non stock induction. I will be going to Dellorto carbs and ditching the EFI. Is this a correct application of this section. Or did I just 'fess up to non-existant forced induction? Yup... I gave myself the 'non stock induction' points for my webers... Also gave myself points for 'flares' since I have 15x7 fuchs and 205x50s in the rear. Not sure everyone else did that... |
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| DanT |
Dec 24 2006, 11:13 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
Greg, you are correct on the induction....but the fenders I would call stock...
Not like you have GT flares with 9s or 10s on the rear.... but then again, not my call anymore (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) not to mention that the 10 points won't make a difference in class for you anyway... Interesting that your car and Tricia's end up in the same class.... Hmmmm, 914-6GT clone with 3.2L running against narrow bodied 2.2L 4 Sounds like a fair match to me.... ya, right....that is the problem with our points system I am surprised the GT clone isn't in even a higher class. |
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