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rear brake woes |
jeffdon |
Nov 16 2006, 10:53 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Well, discovered one of my rear calipers was missing both the adjuster hole plug and also the adjuster. Now i am having a hard time getting the new adjuster to seat in all the way. I can only get it in far enough to expose a few of the threads that the plug uses.
Also, when i turn the adjuster, I can get the piston to extend, but not retract. Shouldn't it move it both ways? I am getting to the point where i am seriously considering putting a pair of front calipers on the rear (allready have them, have gone to BMW front calipers) and carrying a humk of 4x4 for a parking brake. HELP! |
davep |
Nov 16 2006, 11:38 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,143 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Sounds like you might have to clean out that adjuster hole and see if there is a piece of a broken adjuster in there. It should go in and expose about 3/8" of hole. If the pistons don't retract, it really is rebuild time. Usually they are gummed up inside. Quite often you have to use pressure to force the pistons back in while turning the adjuster. That is not really a good thing. To work effectively the piston adjuster operation should be smooth and easy. I'd suggest contacting Eric and get a couple of rebuilds. It is not legal to run without emergency brakes on the street, and 4x4's don't count there. Insurance companies frown on it as well. If you do searches, you will find that putting fronts on the rear is not a good thing, and BMW on the front is not much benefit. Better to have stock brakes in good working condition.
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Cap'n Krusty |
Nov 16 2006, 12:52 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
Not "quite often", ALWAYS. You don't press them back as you turn the screw, you "usually" lose the connection and then you have to have the caliper rebuilt. The Cap'n
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jeffdon |
Nov 16 2006, 01:01 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Not "quite often", ALWAYS. You don't press them back as you turn the screw, you "usually" lose the connection and then you have to have the caliper rebuilt. The Cap'n Crap. And it looks like to have it done, is aver $200 bucks. The procedures on this do not look too bad, I have done more complicated things. I was on the Pelican site, and in thier rebuild kit section, they say they do not recomend splitting the calipers, and thus, will not sell the seals. Where can I get the full seal set? |
jeffdon |
Nov 16 2006, 01:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Not "quite often", ALWAYS. You don't press them back as you turn the screw, you "usually" lose the connection and then you have to have the caliper rebuilt. The Cap'n Crap. And it looks like to have it done, is aver $200 bucks. The procedures on this do not look too bad, I have done more complicated things. I was on the Pelican site, and in thier rebuild kit section, they say they do not recomend splitting the calipers, and thus, will not sell the internal caliper half seals. Where can I get the full seal set? |
toon1 |
Nov 16 2006, 01:28 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,849 Joined: 29-October 05 From: tracy,ca Member No.: 5,022 |
Go to EASY in Emeryville. They are close to you, helpfull, good prices and lots of parts. They can also get the same stuff as Pelican, either at or below(below is usually the case) their price and most the time, same day.
Talk to John Good luck, Keith |
jeffdon |
Nov 16 2006, 01:43 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Go to EASY in Emeryville. They are close to you, helpfull, good prices and lots of parts. They can also get the same stuff as Pelican, either at or below(below is usually the case) their price and most the time, same day. Talk to John Good luck, Keith Know them well, great source actually. |
Eric_Shea |
Nov 16 2006, 02:30 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Well, discovered one of my rear calipers was missing both the adjuster hole plug and also the adjuster. Now i am having a hard time getting the new adjuster to seat in all the way. I can only get it in far enough to expose a few of the threads that the plug uses. Also, when i turn the adjuster, I can get the piston to extend, but not retract. Shouldn't it move it both ways? I have complete kits. If the cap was off and the adjuster was missing, I'd say there's probably a good deal of dirt built up in there. The first thing I would do is take a high pressure air hose to it and blow it out. You may want to try brake cleaner and then air. Solvent based cleaners (even brake cleaner) can swell seals and damage rubber. It's highly advisable to air it out quickly if you use this method. Do not use carb cleaner as it will quickly destroy your seals. Quick shots of brake cleaner followed up with air to evaporate it. Best is just air if you can get it in there. Do what the Cap'n suggests and apply a slight amount of pressure as you attempt to turn the piston in. Remember, that inside adjuster is gear driven and it turns "counter-clockwise" to pull it in. If you decide to rebuild, follow the link below for the calipers. In the first post you'll see a "Do-It-Yourself" link. Read along and PM me with any questions. |
jeffdon |
Nov 16 2006, 03:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,094 Joined: 24-October 06 From: oakland, ca Member No.: 7,087 Region Association: None |
Thanks. I think I shall put the fronts on for the time being, and rebuild the rears. Heck, before i parked it some 8 years ago, I drove around with no E-brake due to a handle that would not go back down for months.
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