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> Tunnel vision - Clutch tube that is
JeffBowlsby
post Nov 25 2006, 09:25 AM
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Directly from Pelican...is this a great photo or what... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)



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post Nov 25 2006, 09:39 AM
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Nice! You can see exactly what happens!
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post Nov 25 2006, 09:48 AM
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If I'm not mistaken, the cluth tube weld is broken in that picture. It should be attached to the side (right in the picture, left from the driver's perspective in the car) of the tunnel. You can see the weld attached to the tube and the spot on the side of the tunnel (just under the accelerator cable mount point) where it should be located.
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post Nov 25 2006, 10:09 AM
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Good call, that's definately right, the clutch tube has broken loose.
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post Nov 25 2006, 10:36 AM
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Uh huh...broken clutch tube BRACKET. This clutch tube has broken free, it should be against the right side of the tunnel in this view.

The photo is taken from the front access hole, looking back towards the rear of the car. The tube itself is not actually welded to the tunnel wall. There is a sheet metal strap 'bracket' that is originally welded to the side of the tunnel, with 2 spot welds...its this bracket that breaks. The clean repair approach is to drill hjoles in the side of the tunnel wall and plug weld the tube (temporarily held with a clamp to the tunnel wall) to the tunnel side wall.
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post Nov 25 2006, 02:54 PM
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Here is a shot of tube with attached bracket. John


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post Nov 25 2006, 04:11 PM
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Freakin awsome! This will make educating other sooo much easier when they come here with this problem (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
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post Nov 25 2006, 11:30 PM
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these pictures are very helpful to me.
On the outside of the tunnel, is it obvious where the spot welds are for drilling?

i want to fix mine this week (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif)


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post Nov 26 2006, 12:26 AM
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If you look closely and carefully, you can find the spot welds from the outside.
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post Nov 26 2006, 01:32 AM
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So, the tricky part is: Drilling without damaging the tube. And putting something inside the tube before welding to make sure the weld doesn't penetrate the tube. Right?

So... What about doing the repair without removing the clutch cable? I'm thinking preventative here.

Maybe cut a piece of copper tubing that fits snugly inside the clutch tube... slot it lengthwise enough to get it over the cable and slide into the clutch tube, rotated so slot is opposite of weld.... Pull it back out after welding.

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post Nov 26 2006, 01:36 AM
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QUOTE(Rand @ Nov 25 2006, 11:32 PM) *

So, the tricky part is: Drilling without damaging the tube. And putting something inside the tube before welding to make sure the weld doesn't penetrate the tube. Right?

So... What about doing the repair without removing the clutch cable? I'm thinking preventative here.

Maybe cut a piece of copper tubing that fits snugly inside the clutch tube... slot it lengthwise enough to get it over the cable and slide into the clutch tube, rotated so slot is opposite of weld.... Pull it back out after welding.

???

damn your a smart guy! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
that should work. i would have pulled the cable (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
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post Nov 26 2006, 01:49 AM
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Well, more of a smart ass really. Hah.

Sometimes I wonder if I spend more time on a short cut, ya know?
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post Nov 26 2006, 01:57 AM
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I slide a no.2 phillips screw driver into the tube. It is nearly impossible to weld to the hard metal of the screw driver with the heat needed to weld the tube back to the wall at or below the original points.

The screw driver handle makes for a convienant way to hold the tube against the wall.

Depending on how long this tube has been broken at the front, I'm betting the middle holder is broken also.. then the rear breaks.


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post Nov 26 2006, 02:08 AM
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I have yet to figure out a method fixing point two in this pic. One and three are what I consider "easy" fixes.


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post Nov 26 2006, 07:55 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Who designed this crap? The clutch cable is way out of alignment in the stock position. It would break free due to stress and it should be welded in a straighter line or arched with the cable not kinking it. Again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)
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post Nov 26 2006, 09:27 AM
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QUOTE(JPB @ Nov 26 2006, 06:55 AM) *

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) Who designed this crap? The clutch cable is way out of alignment in the stock position. It would break free due to stress and it should be welded in a straighter line or arched with the cable not kinking it. Again (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif)


No it's not. The cluth cable in that picture is not installed at the pedal assembly and is pulled over towards the right side of the car (towards the left in the picture). With the clutch cable installed, it actually runs much closer to the left side of the tunnel (right side in the picture) and in alignment with the tube where it is attached to the side of the tunnel.
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post Nov 26 2006, 04:14 PM
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I just used a (I think 1/2") cable clamp. Drilled 2 holes in the side of the tunnel, jambed my hand up inside from the shifter hole and clamped the tube in place. BTW I only snugged up the bolts because if you crush the tube you will never be able to change a cable again.
When the bolts were snug, I ground them down to the thickness of the sound deadening material, and put a little tack weld to hold them on for ever and a day. Put the carpet back on and nobody knows but me and a few hundred others who read this post.
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post Nov 26 2006, 04:19 PM
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Here is another on the topic thats shows mine and other good repairs.
Clutch tube repair
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post Nov 26 2006, 04:30 PM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) The PO of my car used a single sided conduit clamp and a bolt (no worries abotu crushing the tube) and it has served me well. I only found it accidentally while doing something else. Never had a problem with it and it only requires one hole to be drileld where the spot weld was.
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post Nov 26 2006, 07:00 PM
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So many options (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)


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