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> Owners of Original 914/6's, need some info please
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post Nov 12 2003, 10:07 PM
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chassis #130319

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post Nov 13 2003, 01:32 AM
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First off.. I love the sixes and wish I could afford Jims green machine.

The color change comment was a joke... everyone knows I hate color change cars.


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post Nov 13 2003, 08:58 AM
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Ah, I understand completely. I have about 10 engine lids, and I think all of them have suffered a color change. The owners should have just traded cars. Doing a correct color change would be extremely expensive.

I need to get more 1971 and some 1972 data to fully make sense of the data. Anyone know of any '72 cars around?

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post Nov 13 2003, 09:35 AM
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hi folks,

concerning the chassis number I found a description in my archive (someone posted this on the PP board) :

first two digits : week of the year the chassis was produced

third digit : day of the week 1,2,3,4,5 ( monday , tuesday, wednesday, thursday, friday)

fourth digit : should always 9 (factory where the chassis was build) to my knowlegde there was only one factory (osnabrück, karmann)

digitis 5,6,7: runnning serial number of the chassis production for one week

Using the VIN and the chassis number you're able to detemine the birtday of your car. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

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post Nov 13 2003, 09:48 AM
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Benno,

That decoding was what I figured out 20 years ago for the 4 cylinder. The sixes have a different code, hence my request for data from the sixes. As you can see from the posts, the six has a 6 digit chassis number, the four has a 7 digit chassis number. In actual fact, the VW's use the same or similar system as the 914/4; my 411 did anyway. The Mittlemotor site has a different, and I think flawed, interpretation.

For the /4, the base code was 9500 up to about Sept 74 then changed to a base of 9000. To this was added the sequence number during the DAY not the week. Thus 9630 would be the 130th chassis that day.

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post Nov 13 2003, 09:59 AM
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QUOTE(davep @ Nov 13 2003, 07:48 AM)
Benno,

That decoding was what I figured out 20 years ago for the 4 cylinder. The sixes have a different code, hence my request for data from the sixes. As you can see from the posts, the six has a 6 digit chassis number, the four has a 7 digit chassis number. In actual fact, the VW's use the same or similar system as the 914/4; my 411 did anyway. The Mittlemotor site has a different, and I think flawed, interpretation.

For the /4, the base code was 9500 up to about Sept 74 then changed to a base of 9000. To this was added the sequence number during the DAY not the week. Thus 9630 would be the 130th chassis that day.

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hi dave,

I'm sorry, I didn't knew that it was you who reengineered the chassis number plate...
nevertheless, nice to meet you (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)

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post Nov 13 2003, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(davep @ Nov 13 2003, 11:48 AM)
The sixes have a different code...

What system does the early 911 use? Is it comparable to the /6? Just wondering if it's worth checking into.
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post Nov 13 2003, 10:14 AM
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QUOTE(davep @ Nov 13 2003, 06:58 AM)
Anyone know of any '72 cars around?

contact John McClure at SportHaus in Reno. he's got a '72 M471 car ...
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post Nov 13 2003, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(kafermeister @ Nov 13 2003, 08:14 AM)
QUOTE(davep @ Nov 13 2003, 11:48 AM)
The sixes have a different code...

What system does the early 911 use? Is it comparable to the /6? Just wondering if it's worth checking into.

911 bodies were built by Reuter, 914's by Karmann. since this is a coachbuilder designation i'd expect them to be completely dfifferent ...
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post Nov 13 2003, 10:19 AM
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QUOTE(ArtechnikA @ Nov 13 2003, 12:17 PM)
911 bodies were built by Reuter, 914's by Karmann. since this is a coachbuilder designation i'd expect them to be completely dfifferent ...

Good point. I hadn't considered that.
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post Nov 13 2003, 12:45 PM
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Some 911 bodies were built by Karmann. I don't have the way to decode in front of me, but part of a 911 serial number says were it was built
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post Nov 13 2003, 01:13 PM
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QUOTE(airkewl @ Nov 13 2003, 10:45 AM)
Some 911 bodies were built by Karmann. I don't have the way to decode in front of me, but part of a 911 serial number says were it was built

very, very early ones. my '65 912 was the #24 Reuter bodied 912. IIRC, t'was Karmann before that.
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post Nov 14 2003, 08:06 AM
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Just a reminder to those having an original, and not responding yet, that I still need more data. In particular, I need data from 71 and 72. I have half of it figured out I believe, but the first part of the code still eludes me.

Does anyone have a link to the site listing all the sixes spotted in the US including sale postings? I seem to have lost it through a few computer changes.

Thanks to all who have assisted in this project.

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post Nov 17 2003, 07:52 AM
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See last post. Still need more data to be sure. There has to be more than a couple of cars owned by club members. Don't be shy, I don't bite.

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post Nov 17 2003, 09:29 AM
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Serial Numbers

This guy had lots of info about my car! Where it was purchased, who owned it, and some owner provided history. Drop him an e-mail and he will tell you anything you want to know!!

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post Nov 17 2003, 10:00 AM
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Thanks, that was the link I was asking for. To bad it is a year out of date.

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post Nov 17 2003, 10:57 AM
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He updates the info everytime someone e-mails him! I spoke with him 3 months ago and he updated my car info!

I think he just doesn't do the website updates very often!

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post Nov 18 2003, 01:22 AM
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Dave,
Here's another one for you.
1970 914/6
VIN: 9140432658
Original color: Silver

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post Nov 18 2003, 01:24 AM
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Dave,

Carl should get "car beauty" points for his.

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post Nov 18 2003, 01:37 AM
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Kim,
Thanks but there's a lot of them out there in better shape than mine.

I got it out last weekend, drove it for a while then cleaned it up and put it back in mothballs. It runs pretty well but could use a little care in a few places. When I get the other stall in the garage cleaned out the 914 will come back home again. Unfortunately, making space in the garage means building a new tool shed or leaving the wheelbarrow out in the rain. hmmmm. Not a bad idea.

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