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> nuther crazy idea...., toying with making a scissor lift for a teener
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post Dec 7 2006, 12:27 PM
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i would like to get a lift for my shop....but many reasons a standard lift doesn't work..including a low ceiling....
but......
if i was to fab a simple scissor lift, with a hydrolic mechanism ...( kinda like the one on pelican).....
but will the jack points under the car be positioned far enough back to have proper weight distribution....i am thinking of being able to lift the car 4 feet
any contributing ideas?
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post Dec 7 2006, 12:34 PM
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Harbor Freight makes one that occasionally goes on sale. To do it yourself, you a shop with steel stock, fasteners, and all the fabrication equipment. Add to that design time and chasing down all the parts and pieces necessary to complete it. It's a lot of effort, IMO.

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post Dec 7 2006, 12:56 PM
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QUOTE(pete-stevers @ Dec 7 2006, 10:27 AM) *

i would like to get a lift for my shop....but many reasons a standard lift doesn't work..including a low ceiling....
but......
if i was to fab a simple scissor lift, with a hydrolic mechanism ...( kinda like the one on pelican).....
but will the jack points under the car be positioned far enough back to have proper weight distribution....i am thinking of being able to lift the car 4 feet
any contributing ideas?



I was thinking of making a lift that folds up underneath the car, pulled by a winch at the front...sort of like this...

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sorry about the bad graphic...that is a top view...and i wouldnt -actually- do that, there would have to be some struts and other reinforcements added in obviously....
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:23 PM
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QUOTE(andys @ Dec 7 2006, 10:34 AM) *

Harbor Freight makes one that occasionally goes on sale. To do it yourself, you a shop with steel stock, fasteners, and all the fabrication equipment. Add to that design time and chasing down all the parts and pieces necessary to complete it. It's a lot of effort, IMO.

Andys

Fairly cheap aswell! I think they are around $800
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post Dec 7 2006, 01:37 PM
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snapon 4ft lift scissor lift is about 4g...
harbor freigh 1000

good ones in between like bendpack, etc are about 2 thou
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post Dec 7 2006, 02:20 PM
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this looks kinda skookum...


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post Dec 7 2006, 02:35 PM
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this looks kinda skookum...


If that is the typical length, assuming the tiles on floor are 1 sq. ft. each, why would you use it? Everything under the 914 would be blocked from access to work on except in the wheel areas if I am seeing the lift correctly.
That garage is cool looking whoever owns it. Is that Mike Mueller's garage?
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Harbor freight $899


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post Dec 7 2006, 02:39 PM
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Everything under the 914 would be blocked from access to work on except in the wheel areas if I am seeing the lift correctly.


That, or else the back of the car is hanging so far out from the lift that you end up impersonating Qarl's Elise (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

Wasn't there some recent news about people getting injuring from scissor style lifts and improper positioning of the vehicle? I seem to recall a picture of an SUV that had rolled of the side because it hadn't been centered properly...
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post Dec 7 2006, 02:40 PM
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I disagree, both 914 and 911's are nice to work on with scissor lifts because the lift mechanism is under the body and that leaves the engine compartment area all open for access. I like the scissor lifts cause it allows work on the suspension and everything also.

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post Dec 7 2006, 02:41 PM
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oh, and that garage is a guy on Pelican BBS who lives in Sacramento or something, he has a red track car 911.

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post Dec 7 2006, 03:07 PM
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I disagree, both 914 and 911's are nice to work on with scissor lifts because the lift mechanism is under the body and that leaves the engine compartment area all open for access. I like the scissor lifts cause it allows work on the suspension and everything also.

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yup! they rock...

guy on PP i bought my 911 front end from had one....

he gave me a killer deal... but i had to pull it off the 911 myself... oh darn... he has this bitchin snapon scissor lift....

best 20 minutes of wrenching ever !

pops and i are gonna buy one...
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post Dec 7 2006, 04:21 PM
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.....is the one pictured up top a "snap-on' scissor?
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post Dec 7 2006, 04:31 PM
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i guesse it is recessed in the floor for a reason


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post Dec 7 2006, 05:03 PM
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I have this cool lift that I got from Lockheed, well, I got it from some scrappers that were paid to take it from lockheed... Anyway... Apparently, it's supposed to take an item (satellites?) that's standing upright, and it lays it down horizontally. It's seriously beefy, and it's supposed to move up to 7,000 lbs, with really heavy casters and all. I've been toying with making it into a scissor lift, when I un-bury it from the back of the garage one of these days.

Anyway, just sayin'.
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post Dec 7 2006, 05:48 PM
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QUOTE(pete-stevers @ Dec 7 2006, 10:27 AM) *

i would like to get a lift for my shop....but many reasons a standard lift doesn't work..including a low ceiling....
but......
if i was to fab a simple scissor lift, with a hydrolic mechanism ...( kinda like the one on pelican).....
but will the jack points under the car be positioned far enough back to have proper weight distribution....i am thinking of being able to lift the car 4 feet
any contributing ideas?

Pete,
I own a Bend Pak (scissor lift) that I bought for my 911 and the front engined cars that we have in the family. I have had my 914 on it for maint. but have not tried an engine pull. The car is very stable and really makes life alot easier. Do a search on ASE (automotive service equipment) These guys run some good deals on price and shipping. Just remember, our 914s are much lighter than most vehicles out there, but you are still going to be working under about a ton of car. These lifts have a maximum capacity of 6000Lbs.
Good hunting,
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post Dec 7 2006, 06:10 PM
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QUOTE(pete-stevers @ Dec 7 2006, 02:20 PM) *

this looks kinda skookum...


If that is the typical length, assuming the tiles on floor are 1 sq. ft. each, why would you use it? Everything under the 914 would be blocked from access to work on except in the wheel areas if I am seeing the lift correctly.
That garage is cool looking whoever owns it. Is that Mike Mueller's garage?
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HAHAHA

no... that garage, you can see the floor... Mike mueller has so many projects in his garage, you cant see the floor!!!! SOOO many cool tools.... ohh.. like his lathe, cnc, presses, saws, bla bla bla...
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post Dec 7 2006, 07:25 PM
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Anyone use a sissors lift for engine R&R?

Always wondered if the area under the engine is clear with the lift down? Seems like the legs extend outside of the lift pads when down?


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post Dec 7 2006, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(pete-stevers @ Dec 7 2006, 02:31 PM) *

i guesse it is recessed in the floor for a reason


I would be scared to work under the car like that unless those feet had 8 foot anchors.

I live in California and got scared out of my wits when we had a small earthquake and I was under the car.

Your area may not be subject to the natural qualms as mine is but, I personally wouldn't do it........

But (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Dec 7 2006, 08:15 PM
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keepers could be welded on.....
plus if that is how i go....in an eathquake, under a 914, on a scissor lift..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
that would not be the worst thing to happen...."IF" it happened....
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