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| Trekkor |
 Dec 7 2006, 11:29 PM
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I do things...  Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California  |
Second-hand, never-used (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
I may weld it in and go to the dark side over the winter... KT |
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| DanT |
Dec 7 2006, 11:36 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
bring it on (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
where did you find it Trek? I am going to install my petty bar during my motor work...already have all the plates and reinforcement ready...jut need to drill a couple of holes and bolt it in. |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 7 2006, 11:45 PM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
I bought it from a local Clubber. ( good deal ) thanks!
Also got a second set of 7" steel rims with a better backspace. 225's may fit (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) KT |
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| DanT |
Dec 7 2006, 11:48 PM
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Going back to the Dark Side! Group: Members Posts: 4,300 Joined: 4-October 04 From: Auburn, CA Member No.: 2,880 Region Association: None |
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| Trekkor |
Dec 8 2006, 12:09 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
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| nine14cats |
Dec 8 2006, 12:41 AM
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Bill Pickering -- 914-6 GT aka....Leeloo Group: Members Posts: 2,618 Joined: 10-February 03 From: Campbell, CA Member No.: 287 Region Association: None |
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| Mike T |
Dec 8 2006, 06:00 AM
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can't 'member Group: Members Posts: 378 Joined: 16-January 03 From: Brackney, PA Member No.: 161 |
QUOTE(trekkor @ Dec 7 2006, 10:09 PM)  Looks good. Is that the QA Inspector checking it out? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Mike T |
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| URY914 |
Dec 8 2006, 07:23 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,354 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
I started my cage with a Autopower roll bar. I added oversized plates to the floor and at right angles up the longs before I bolted it in. I felt like the base plates that are on the bar would just push right thru the floor in a big roll over.
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| Brett W |
Dec 8 2006, 09:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,856 Joined: 17-September 03 From: huntsville, al Member No.: 1,169 Region Association: None 
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When you get it put in let me know if it fits as bad as the other bolt in cages I have seen.
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| Trekkor |
Dec 8 2006, 09:58 AM
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I do things... Group: Members Posts: 7,809 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Napa, Ca Member No.: 1,413 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE let me know if it fits as bad as the other bolt in cages I have seen. OK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) KT |
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| grantsfo |
Dec 8 2006, 10:06 AM
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Arrrrhhhh! Group: Members Posts: 4,327 Joined: 16-March 03 Member No.: 433 Region Association: None |
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| ConeDodger |
Dec 8 2006, 10:08 AM
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Apex killer! Group: Members Posts: 23,574 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California
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QUOTE(trekkor @ Dec 8 2006, 07:58 AM) QUOTE let me know if it fits as bad as the other bolt in cages I have seen. OK (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) KT It is the same cage as the one in the Bumblebee and that one fits fine. Pretty much all cages seem to make operation of the targa latches difficult for ham handed fingers. As for the base plates, Trekkors already reinforced the area with the Engman kit. Do you think more is needed Paul? |
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| jgara962 |
Dec 8 2006, 10:27 AM
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Yo, this is how I roll Group: Members Posts: 823 Joined: 5-April 05 From: Napa, CA Member No.: 3,879 Region Association: Northern California |
I thought that you had already bought the bended tubes for a cage and were going to weld it in yourself?
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| Chris Pincetich |
Dec 8 2006, 10:49 AM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Sweet. I think your cat likes it. It would look awesome painted red. I was hoping you would get a full cage before I rode along at Sears. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I could help/watch with the install if needed, especially next weekend the 16th. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
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| URY914 |
Dec 8 2006, 10:59 AM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,354 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Rotten Robby @ Dec 8 2006, 08:08 AM) As for the base plates, Trekkors already reinforced the area with the Engman kit. Do you think more is needed Paul? Na, not if it has something more than just the original floor. You know if I was to do it all over again I would use a hole saw and drill the longs and feed it thru and weld on the bottom and on the top of the longs. Super strong that way. 1. Drill a 2" hole all the way thru the longs top and bottom. 2. Feed the bar thru the holes without a base plate. 3. Weld a base plate on the bottom of the bar after it is feed thru the holes. 4. Pull the bar up so the base plate is under the car and weld it to the bottom of the floor and long. 5. Cut a plate to fit around the bar on top of the long and weld the plate to the bar and the plate to the top of the long. |
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| 914forme |
Dec 8 2006, 11:12 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(URY914 @ Dec 8 2006, 11:59 AM) Na, not if it has something more than just the original floor. You know if I was to do it all over again I would use a hole saw and drill the longs and feed it thru and weld on the bottom and on the top of the longs. Super strong that way. 1. Drill a 2" hole all the way thru the longs top and bottom. 2. Feed the bar thru the holes without a base plate. 3. Weld a base plate on the bottom of the bar after it is feed thru the holes. 4. Pull the bar up so the base plate is under the car and weld it to the bottom of the floor and long. 5. Cut a plate to fit around the bar on top of the long and weld the plate to the bar and the plate to the top of the long. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) And if you leave the hole open in the bottom you can mount them cool air powered jacks But you want it to have 3 points and not 4. 3 points make a plane. But for Paul that would be too much wieght. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) BTW, if you wrap the foot plate down the log and weld it to the floor and plate under the floor, it won't go any where, and if it does you have impacted with enough force you won't survive with out a miracle. Oh and Dan I want to see pictures of the Petty bar install. Had one on a J-class racer I have buillt helped out alot. But I am looking and wondering how you bolt that in, with out having a big head banger for a strett car? My auto-x car I still drive to the events. My son rides along to and from events now, I want to take it out, so I don't have to worry about him face planting the Petty bar. And my head being used like a softball against the roll bar. Both would suck! Padding yes, but that Petty bar and a passenger do not mix. |
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| 914forme |
Dec 8 2006, 11:16 AM
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Times a wastin', get wrenchin'! Group: Members Posts: 3,896 Joined: 24-July 04 From: Dayton, Ohio Member No.: 2,388 Region Association: None
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QUOTE(Brett W @ Dec 8 2006, 10:52 AM) When you get it put in let me know if it fits as bad as the other bolt in cages I have seen. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) So is that why you are sellling the one in the Classifieds? |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 8 2006, 12:05 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,614 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(Rotten Robby @ Dec 8 2006, 08:08 AM) As for the base plates, Trekkors already reinforced the area with the Engman kit. Do you think more is needed Paul? that cage bolts to the floor pan, not the longs ... my cage is welded to the top of the longs (with additional large backing plates) ... i think it'll work fine, but i'd be using a two piece backing plate on the floor, regardless of bolted or welded. just sandwich the floor where it's going to bolt to with some good sized steel plates ... any cage is better than no cage ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) Andy |
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| SirAndy |
Dec 8 2006, 12:09 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,614 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
crappy pic, but you get the idea ... welded to the top of the long using a backing plate. btw. there's another backing plate on the side of the long to help prevent the long from deforming ...
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| URY914 |
Dec 8 2006, 12:20 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,354 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Here is a old racer's trick....
When your rules say, "Bolted-in roll bar only" Weld a reinforcing plate to the bottom of the floor. Install the roll bar in car and bolt it into place. Then go below and weld the nuts to the plate. This way you are bolting "to" the car's floor not "through" the floor. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/happy11.gif) |
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