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anyone know how to calibrate one for a 1.8 engine?
When I open my throttle the sweeper does not go all the way? |
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Life's been good to me so far..... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Admin Posts: 16,523 Joined: 11-September 03 From: Hurst, TX. Member No.: 1,143 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille ![]() ![]() |
anyone know how to calibrate one for a 1.8 engine? When I open my throttle the sweeper does not go all the way? It may not. That spring is designed to hold against a wide open throttle at high engine RPM under load. It may not go all the way without the load on the engine. I have the calibration gauge. Unfortunately, the meter that is supposed to work with the gauge is INOP. If you have altered it, I would suggest that you get a replacement. I would not suggest a rebuilt one, as they are calibrated for a VW type I. The spring and wiper adjustments are different for a Type IV. |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,885 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
When a rebuild meant for a VW is used on a 914, what performance issues arise ?
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You can use a wideband O2 sensor to calibrate it, and make sure you are running the right air-fuel ratio. If you need one, let me know.
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914 Freak! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 17,155 Joined: 4-January 03 From: Antioch, CA Member No.: 87 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
anyone know how to calibrate one for a 1.8 engine? When I open my throttle the sweeper does not go all the way? so you are running the motor at WOT???? depending on the conditions, it might not "need" to open 100%, I don't think it's a 1:1 relationship between the throttle and the AFM door |
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
Use the LM1 meter and adjust the sweeper (loosen that tiny screw) very slightly to set the AFR to 14 to 1 under load driving. Should be stable from idle to WOT otherwise you have some other problem.
Worked great on my bus with Ljet. See pic on other post. |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 354 Joined: 12-November 06 From: Santa Clarita Member No.: 7,205 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
You probably want to run a little lower than 14 for better power, and a little cooler running.
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
You can try 13.7 to 1 but that seemed too rich in my Westy and 13.9 is one tick away from 14.0.
Try it and see your results....look at your plug color and CHT, oil temps. I run cool CHTs so I can get away with it. I want to test a stock 1.8L and see what the factory set the AFR at. Book says 13.7 for partload for Djet but the AFR goes all over the place compared to Ljet. |
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
pic of inside of the AFM. Loosen the screw after removing the glue. Slight movements mean alot!!! You will have to bend the FP shutoff arm when done so its right too or the FP will run with the engine stopped.
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,885 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Nice illustration of te AFM adjustment; what is an LM1 ? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)
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Its alive ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,855 Joined: 16-February 04 From: CT Member No.: 1,659 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
Its a wideband O2 sensor Jim.
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
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Cap'n Krusty ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California ![]() |
anyone know how to calibrate one for a 1.8 engine? When I open my throttle the sweeper does not go all the way? It may not. That spring is designed to hold against a wide open throttle at high engine RPM under load. It may not go all the way without the load on the engine. I have the calibration gauge. Unfortunately, the meter that is supposed to work with the gauge is INOP. If you have altered it, I would suggest that you get a replacement. I would not suggest a rebuilt one, as they are calibrated for a VW type I. The spring and wiper adjustments are different for a Type IV. Why would a T4 airbox be calibrated to T1 specs? Different plug, different number of pins, different intake boot diameter, and a different engine with different characteristics. The T1 airbox WON'T FIT on a T4 engine, and vice-versa........ The Cap'n BTW, IIRC, the 914 airboxes (2 or 3 or more part numbers), have been NLA for years. NOT the same as 2 litre busses. |
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
So what is the difference in the AFM as the part numbers are the same. Later buses AFM's have a suffix lettercode.
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,885 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for posting the link. Thats very interesting.
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
Great tuning tool for $400! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) I have alot of fun with mine.
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 354 Joined: 12-November 06 From: Santa Clarita Member No.: 7,205 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
If you need one some time, I have one Jim. could bring it to the bbq some time if you wanted to check your car.
Thanks for posting the link. Thats very interesting. |
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Get that VIN ? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 9,885 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Update.
Thanks Chris for bringing your wideband sensor to the bar-b-que and testing my car. Very interesting. I think we eliminated the AFM as the idle problem. Learned alot too..... If you need one some time, I have one Jim. could bring it to the bbq some time if you wanted to check your car. Thanks for posting the link. Thats very interesting. |
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Aircooled Baby! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 13,036 Joined: 27-December 02 From: Seattle, Washington (for now) Member No.: 24 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() |
Well, tell us what your readings were! Share! share! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 354 Joined: 12-November 06 From: Santa Clarita Member No.: 7,205 Region Association: Southern California ![]() |
Readings were around 14.2-14.5 at idle, and 13.5 at WOT.
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