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| Bogaat |
 Mar 15 2007, 08:13 AM
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I will obviously post pics when it gets here. I am thinking I should change the oil and adjust the valves tonight. I do not yet have any manuals for this guy, so I figured I could just ask you guys.
1) What are the adjustments for the valves? This is a stock 74 2 liter. 2) How much oil does this thing take and what type should I get? Any recommendations on filters available through the standard part stores? Thanks! |
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| Joe Bob |
Mar 15 2007, 08:30 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
Welcome to the insanity.......
Look in the archives via search for the "Kaptain Krusty" valve adjustment thread. The type IV is an "interesting" car to adjust.....beyond the spec, there's a procedure. As to oil filters....DO NOT USE FRAM. They are junk. I use Mahle....they are available via Pelican, Auto Atlanta or the dealer.....I usually wait for a sale or pickup 5 or more when I see them on eBay. |
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| type47 |
Mar 15 2007, 08:37 AM
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Viermeister Group: Members Posts: 4,254 Joined: 7-August 03 From: Vienna, VA Member No.: 994 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
from the workshop manual
Attached File(s) 
tech_DATA.doc ( 53.5k )
Number of downloads: 90 |
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| Bogaat |
Mar 15 2007, 08:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Charleston, SC Member No.: 7,436 |
Does this thing really have a 16 gallon tank? My bug only holds 10! So I guess 20W-50 will do for oil?
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| mudfoot76 |
Mar 15 2007, 09:21 AM
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Currently teenerless :-( Group: Members Posts: 946 Joined: 18-March 04 From: Carmel, IN Member No.: 1,814 Region Association: None |
QUOTE(Bogaat @ Mar 15 2007, 10:40 AM)  Does this thing really have a 16 gallon tank? My bug only holds 10! So I guess 20W-50 will do for oil? You can go quite far on a full tank of gas (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) 20W50 is good, though many are starting to use Rotella 15W40 (do a search for Rotella) And to reinforce -- don't EVER use Fram oil filters. Never never never. |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Mar 15 2007, 09:27 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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I use Mobil 1 20w50 & K&N oil filters. Makes it a bit pricey but everything has stayed cool & clean for a long time now so I can't complain. Cold valve clearances are: intake (0.006"/0.15mm) & exhaust (0.008"/0.20mm). Enjoy the new toy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) !
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| Joe Ricard |
Mar 15 2007, 09:34 AM
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CUMONIWANNARACEU Group: Members Posts: 6,811 Joined: 5-January 03 From: Gautier, MS Member No.: 92 |
Yea imagine 16 gallon tank with and early 1.7L making 32+ MPG. I had a ratio of having to stop and pee twice before needing gas.
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| sk8kat1 |
Mar 15 2007, 10:20 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 911 Joined: 10-October 05 From: belvidere ,IL Member No.: 4,937 |
ok I gotta ask why is fram sooo bad for the car ? .. never used one I got a lot of oil filter with the car
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| Joe Bob |
Mar 15 2007, 10:25 AM
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Retired admin, banned a few times Group: Members Posts: 17,427 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Boulder CO Member No.: 5 Region Association: None |
No oil bypass valve.....also if you look at the cross references, they use the filter on A LOT of other vehicles so they cut corners to make it generic.
They are too long/tall for use with a sandwhich plate and a 2.0 engine cross bar.... |
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| Gint |
Mar 15 2007, 10:35 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE(sk8kat1 @ Mar 15 2007, 09:20 AM) ok I gotta ask why is fram sooo bad for the car ? .. never used one I got a lot of oil filter with the car http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html google "fram oil filter" and make you own assessment. |
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| AZ914 |
Mar 15 2007, 10:41 AM
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914 Dumbass Group: Members Posts: 1,459 Joined: 6-January 03 From: Sunny Tucson Member No.: 98 Region Association: Southwest Region |
Congrats! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif)
I run 20W50 here in the desert. I would invest in a HAYNES 914 Manual.. they can be had on E-bay for around $20. Its not perfect but it is nice to have some exploded diagrams, fluid levels, specs, etc. |
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| Chris Pincetich |
Mar 15 2007, 02:42 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
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Haynes also sells the manual directly and ships new to your house for about $20. It's always a close call where to find the best 914 info, in the manual or here! Manual wins for torques specs, World wins for photos (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| gary gartner |
Mar 15 2007, 03:44 PM
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i know more than a newbie---way less than a guru Group: Members Posts: 239 Joined: 16-December 04 From: Valencia, Ca Member No.: 3,294 Region Association: Southern California |
I would recommend also getting Auto Atlanta's Tech Tips 700, I think it is very helpful
Oh yeah (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welcome.png) Gary QUOTE(Bogaat @ Mar 15 2007, 06:13 AM) I will obviously post pics when it gets here. I am thinking I should change the oil and adjust the valves tonight. I do not yet have any manuals for this guy, so I figured I could just ask you guys. 1) What are the adjustments for the valves? This is a stock 74 2 liter. 2) How much oil does this thing take and what type should I get? Any recommendations on filters available through the standard part stores? Thanks! |
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| Eric_Shea |
Mar 15 2007, 04:29 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
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| Bogaat |
Mar 16 2007, 08:18 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Charleston, SC Member No.: 7,436 |
Ok, here is one from the previous owner. It came last night and I drove it to work today! I am a little freaked out as it has only been driven 300 miles in the last ten years! I can tell because of the tire receipt which was only 300 miles previous dated 1997. I am not sure just yet if they have any flat spots from sitting. I think the car still has the same gas...eek. It seems to drive well enough though. I figured I would burn it and fill it up later today with some good stuff. The shifting is a little sloppy, so I think it will need new bushings. It also has some vibration around 60mph, so I am guessing it needs to have the wheels balanced. Overall the car is in great shape. It only has 60k original miles and apears to have one repaint years ago. It has minimal rust which is a nice thing. Of course, there are a few spots to fix. I am planning on pulling the engine in a few weeks to do a rebuild. It doesn't leak too much and doesn't smoke, but I am thinking it should be done. I do plan on driving it every day. Hopefully you guys won't get too annoyed with all of my questions!
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| type11969 |
Mar 16 2007, 08:21 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,231 Joined: 2-December 03 From: Collingswood, NJ Member No.: 1,410 Region Association: North East States |
I'd consider replacing those tires, 10 years old? The could be dry rotted! Otherwise definitely a nice looking ride.
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| bd1308 |
Mar 16 2007, 08:25 AM
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Sir Post-a-lot Group: Members Posts: 8,020 Joined: 24-January 05 From: Louisville,KY Member No.: 3,501 |
I can tell you first hand that dry rotted tires only gets you so far until they rip apart and shred on you while you're going 75 trying to get home to get new tires..
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| Bogaat |
Mar 16 2007, 08:26 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 195 Joined: 8-January 07 From: Charleston, SC Member No.: 7,436 |
Yeah, but they actually look really good. You would never guess they were that old. We will see as I start knocking things out.
QUOTE(type11969 @ Mar 16 2007, 10:21 AM) I'd consider replacing those tires, 10 years old? The could be dry rotted! Otherwise definitely a nice looking ride. |
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| TJB/914 |
Mar 16 2007, 08:48 AM
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Mid-Engn. Group: Members Posts: 4,328 Joined: 24-February 03 From: Plymouth & Petoskey, MI Member No.: 346 Region Association: Upper MidWest
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QUOTE(Bogaat @ Mar 16 2007, 06:18 AM) Ok, here is one from the previous owner. It came last night and I drove it to work today! I am a little freaked out as it has only been driven 300 miles in the last ten years! I can tell because of the tire receipt which was only 300 miles previous dated 1997. I am not sure just yet if they have any flat spots from sitting. I think the car still has the same gas...eek. It seems to drive well enough though. I figured I would burn it and fill it up later today with some good stuff. The shifting is a little sloppy, so I think it will need new bushings. It also has some vibration around 60mph, so I am guessing it needs to have the wheels balanced. Overall the car is in great shape. It only has 60k original miles and apears to have one repaint years ago. It has minimal rust which is a nice thing. Of course, there are a few spots to fix. I am planning on pulling the engine in a few weeks to do a rebuild. It doesn't leak too much and doesn't smoke, but I am thinking it should be done. I do plan on driving it every day. Hopefully you guys won't get too annoyed with all of my questions! Bogaat, Welcome to new ownership. You have a beautiful 914. Now for my advise....Don't pull that motor, fix a few things like tires, etc and drive the 914 this summer. New owners make the mistake of wanting it perfect & it ends up on jack stands for many years. Enjoy the 914 a few years before starting major repairs. Once the motor comes out you will find hundreds of other things needing repairs. Why do I say this!! I started with a simple clutch repair & minor paint touchup. Five years later, 2,500 of my manhours plus other services I finished. I also should mention money, lots of it $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Tom |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Mar 16 2007, 09:04 AM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region
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QUOTE(Thomas J Bliznik @ Mar 16 2007, 10:48 AM) Now for my advise....Don't pull that motor, fix a few things like tires, etc and drive the 914 this summer. New owners make the mistake of wanting it perfect & it ends up on jack stands for many years. Enjoy the 914 a few years before starting major repairs. Once the motor comes out you will find hundreds of other things needing repairs. Why do I say this!! I started with a simple clutch repair & minor paint touchup. Five years later, 2,500 of my manhours plus other services I finished. I also should mention money, lots of it $$$$$$$$$$$$$$. Tom (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) 100%. Get her going. Change your brake fluid & check your brakes for abnormal wear. Change engine & gear oil. Get a K&N air filter. Replace your plugs, wires, cap, rotor & points or ignition module. Adjust those valves. Clean & lube every hinge, latch & tumbler. Wash & treat all your rubber body seals. Get new tires & use the tire calculator here on the website to find the right size. Cheap tires can be obtained at both the Tirerack.com & Discounttiredirect.com. Keep your eyes & ears open & look for problems. Any immediate rust issues shuld just be stopped for now & made pretty later. Drive her this summer, get used to her & work all the bugs out... it is a 30+ yr old car! When it's all said & done you'll love it even more (IMG:style_emoticons/default/thumb3d.gif) . (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool_shades.gif) |
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