 Superlite 15x7 25+ offset 4 lug 4x130 wheels, for those of you looking for something different |
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| nein14 |
 Mar 29 2007, 08:07 AM
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I actually work with Barry the owner of Pack Racing with several machine modified wheels to get the back spacing,lug pattern and offset correct on the Superlite Wheels on both the 16lb. Track Wheel and 22lb. street wheels.
Before the mfg. Performance started production on the Porsche version of the wheel Barry had made several trip to Austalia were Performance factory is located to ensure they would work on 914 & 911's. Barry is a great guy to work with , the wheel are a great value at twice the price. |
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| Gint |
Mar 29 2007, 08:28 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
QUOTE(nein14 @ Mar 29 2007, 07:07 AM)  I actually work with Barry the owner of Pack Racing with several machine modified wheels to get the back spacing,lug pattern and offset correct on the Superlite Wheels on both the 16lb. Track Wheel and 22lb. street wheels. Before the mfg. Performance started production on the Porsche version of the wheel Barry had made several trip to Austalia were Performance factory is located to ensure they would work on 914 & 911's. Barry is a great guy to work with , the wheel are a great value at twice the price. I've had nothing but good experiences with Pack Racing to this point. Gret folks and very helpful. Hopefully this information will help them understand the idoiosyncracies of the 914 with regard to fitment of Superlite wheels. That's one of my other goals in this project. |
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| Gint |
Apr 2 2007, 02:48 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I talked with Terry from Pack Racing Friday. Even though I bought these as basically used wheels, he is sending me a set of inserts for the cost of shipping. And the 914 fitment issues as outlined in this thread.
Pack Racing is a great place to do business with IMO. |
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| Gint |
Apr 20 2007, 01:00 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I'm finally getting around to installing these inserts today. I received them from Pack Racing 3 weeks or so ago, but the car falling on my face slowed my progress.
I've searched all over town for 14x1.5mm lug bolts to no avail. So this morning I ordered a set of conical seat bolts from Euro Sport Accessories. I also ordered 1 ball seat 40mm 14x1.5x40mm lug bolt to check if these are the proper ball seat for a Fuchs alloy wheel. I'll let you all kow when they get here if it is or not. They should all be here by the end of next week or the Monday following. |
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| Gint |
Apr 20 2007, 06:11 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Dammit I can't win!
So I took the wheels/tires to the Big O Tire shop where I bought the tires originally to have the tires dismounted so I could drill the Superlight wheels for the inserts. Got the wheels all drilled, sent an email to the local gang looking for a shop press to install them (since my press is at Kevin's). Turns out the tire shop has a press and will let me use it. So I go back down there and start pressing inserts into wheels. As I finish each wheel, they are mounting and rebalancing tires on them. Everything's goin great, I'm on the last insert on the last wheel... *CRACK*!!!!!!!!!!!!! I put one crank too much on the press and the damn wheel cracked! I ordered a $175 replacement. That puts my total investment into these things at $560. Still a deal considering they cost $175 each for these wheels new. This cracked wheel will look great on the garage wall next to my "labor of love" polished Fuchs wheel. The wheel and the lug bolts should all be here before next weekend. I might get these wheels on the zambeziteen yet!   |
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| Chris Pincetich |
Apr 20 2007, 06:25 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
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Those are press in inserts to convert mag/flat seat to cone seat? I had to machine my wheels to cone seat with a cone bit in a drill press due to lack of availability of the proper size mag/flat seat lug bolts. Lots of alloy material in there so I was OK to drill. Lots of mag seat LUG NUTS if you go to studs (I will if I ever buy "race only" wheels/tires). Those wheels will be worth the work, they look awesome. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| Gint |
Apr 20 2007, 06:31 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE Those are press in inserts to convert mag/flat seat to cone seat? Yes. Pack Racing normally installs these inserts, but since I bought these wheels used they somehow didn't get them installed originally. I'm still only at $560 for the set. That's not much more than a set of Fuchs and it's a unique wheel. I'm looking forward to finallly getting them on the car. |
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| 73Phoenix20 |
Apr 20 2007, 07:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 334 Joined: 15-June 05 From: Michiana Member No.: 4,283 |
Interesting info...
Does anyone know if Mini Lite still sells these wheels? 15" x 6.5" and same offset as the Fuchs 2.0... weighed maybe 16 lbs. Michelin 195/60's fit perfectly with no fender mods... Could have gone to 205's in some brands, w/o interference... Mini Lite sold the correct lug bolts, with a thrust washer, to fit the flat holes... Seems like they used to be about $155 each, but everything has gone up lately...  |
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| jim_hoyland |
Apr 20 2007, 09:32 PM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,271 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California 
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Gint, Thanks for the lesson; Good Stuff !
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| Gint |
May 6 2007, 09:38 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It's been a long road...
My $360 deal on Superlight wheels ended up costing $900 by the time it was all said and done. If I hadn't broken that one wheel, I still could have come in under the $750 shipped cost of a set of new wheels from Superlight. But, these are now custom 30mm offset wheels. My new bolts are even long enough with these wheels for some spacers in the front. I may still add them. We'll see... Pictures came out pretty crappy. The clouds (and work) rolled in before I could get some decent shots.     |
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| TROJANMAN |
May 7 2007, 12:23 AM
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Looks nice in pictures......... Group: Members Posts: 5,260 Joined: 5-March 04 From: Colorado Member No.: 1,753 Region Association: None |
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That car looks faster already........... What kind of centercaps are you going to use? |
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| Ferg |
May 7 2007, 09:29 AM
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| boxstr |
May 7 2007, 10:01 AM
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MEMBER:PACIFIC NORTHWEST REGION Group: Members Posts: 7,522 Joined: 25-December 02 From: OREGON Member No.: 12 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
The best classic look in an aftermarket wheel.
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| Gint |
May 7 2007, 05:13 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(TROJANMAN @ May 6 2007, 11:23 PM) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/clap56.gif) That car looks faster already........... What kind of centercaps are you going to use? Dunno... The caps that came with the wheels are tall and fugly chrome plastic units. I talked to Trudesign Wheels about making caps (I was thinking Fuchs caps also (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)) and he poopoo'd that right away. He's been burnt too many times by people wanting caps made (for 5 lug Fuchs even) and then getting blown off when the supposed buyer finds out what a one off set will cost. I proposed the idea of doing quantities and he wasn't thrilled about that either. I need to find a machine shop I can work with. Actually a coworker has an old lathe in his garage. I may talk to him about it. |
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| cuca914 |
May 10 2007, 07:07 PM
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"Serenity now!!" Group: Members Posts: 301 Joined: 19-March 07 From: Rancho Cucamonga, CA Member No.: 7,609 Region Association: Southern California |
QUOTE(Gint @ Mar 28 2007, 10:39 AM) Mine are 15x7 25mm+ offset. IMHO, In a 15" wheel your best option is the 15x6 in 24mm+ offset or the 15x7 in 25mm+ offset. Ideally, the best Superlite wheel for a narrow body 914 would probably be the 16x7 35+ offset. Pack Racing Superlite page Nice lookin' wheels! I didn't think I liked them too much until seeing them in this thread. Thanks for the diagrams too - now I have a much better understanding of what 'offset' means. I see that you recommend the 16x7 35+ offset for the narrow teeners and I'm inclined to agree with you. Do you or anyone else here have any suggestions for tires that would provide a good fit without having to roll any fenders? Thanks |
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| majkos |
May 10 2007, 09:10 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,370 Joined: 29-February 04 From: Mile High 914 Member No.: 1,729 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
G-man,I'm behind you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
I'm a hoping we have the same size dia. caps. I want to dress up my ATS's. I'll even pitch in to run productions. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smash.gif) |
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| Gint |
May 13 2007, 03:08 AM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE(cuca914 @ May 10 2007, 06:07 PM) QUOTE(Gint @ Mar 28 2007, 10:39 AM) Mine are 15x7 25mm+ offset. IMHO, In a 15" wheel your best option is the 15x6 in 24mm+ offset or the 15x7 in 25mm+ offset. Ideally, the best Superlite wheel for a narrow body 914 would probably be the 16x7 35+ offset. Pack Racing Superlite page Nice lookin' wheels! I didn't think I liked them too much until seeing them in this thread. Thanks for the diagrams too - now I have a much better understanding of what 'offset' means. I see that you recommend the 16x7 35+ offset for the narrow teeners and I'm inclined to agree with you. Do you or anyone else here have any suggestions for tires that would provide a good fit without having to roll any fenders? Thanks You can definitely fit a 205 section width tire on a 7" rim. People put 205's on Fuchs 5.5" wide rims all the time. On a Superlight 16X7" with 35mm offset, you *may* even be able to install a 215 and have it fit on a narrow body (no flares) 914. Whether they will fit or not will depend on different factors.
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| JPB |
May 13 2007, 07:05 AM
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Them there are perdy. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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| orcadigital |
May 13 2007, 12:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 59 Joined: 1-November 05 From: Elizabeth, CO Member No.: 5,043 |
Looks good Gint!
My wheels still rock, too bad they really dont fit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/welder.gif) |
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| sixnotfour |
Jan 2 2013, 12:30 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,419 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains 
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QUOTE How much do these "superlite" wheels weigh??? They look gud! OK just looked it up. they weigh about 18.9 lbs! Not exactly super lite. Gint, some other 15inch wheels weights 5 lug Mahle magnesium 15x5.5  BBS E30 magnesium center 15x8.5  Fuchs 15x7  American Racing aluminum 15x7  Mini-Lite aluminum 15x6.5  Revolution 15x6.5  Anaconda- Carrol Shelby 15x7  Mahle Knock Off aluminum-custom 15x6.5  |
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