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> anyone one want to trade my car...for a running 1?, lol
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:06 AM
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all I need to say is that this 914 is frustrating, and more than one person will agree with me...lol


damn I just want to drive... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving-girl.gif)
one day (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wub.gif)
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:15 AM
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:18 AM
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Everything is only hard the first time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Keep fighting the good fight. At least you have a massive support group here to help out. Yay, 914 Club.
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:26 AM
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oh so true....two extremely helpful members came by today and had two other offers...but my motor is cursed to never start....ever...
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:37 AM
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Well I dont know what too say about this car. my son spent 3 hrs checking the valves, the timing, the points, and the fuel pump. we got spark at the plug. the car farted once or twice but would not start. had Jared get new plugs and starting fluid but it didn't help. we tried

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post Dec 7 2003, 12:38 AM
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What is it not doing, spark, fuel, what?
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:39 AM
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You did indeed...thank you guys a lot, that was a good experience, just goes to show that this site truly is a community. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Dec 7 2003, 12:40 AM
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it has spark, it has fuel, it has compression, wont turn over...one last thing is possibly a new starter...but it would fire up just fine before dropping the motor...so what gives???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:46 AM
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(IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I should just bolt in a Briggs and Stratton...more power
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:56 AM
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Check the ground strap from the trans to the body, It needs to be clean and tight for the starter to have a good enough ground to crank correctly. Or the starter could have taken a dump! What else did you touch?
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:57 AM
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QUOTE(markd@mac.com @ Dec 6 2003, 10:18 PM)
Everything is only hard the first time. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
Keep fighting the good fight. At least you have a massive support group here to help out. Yay, 914 Club.

That is so true. The second time I touch anything on the car it is much easier. I'm definately getting better at wrenching. :-).

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post Dec 7 2003, 01:00 AM
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What did you do to it again that you had to drop the motor?
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post Dec 7 2003, 04:18 AM
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It had a stuck valve, among other problems. Hmm... a weak starter will turn over a shitty motor.... hmm.. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

Push start?




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post Dec 7 2003, 10:01 AM
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If the starter is turning the engine but sounds like it has a half dead battery then you might have the spark plug wires one hole off. Did you turn the case over at all? The distributor drive could have fallen out and then fallen back in at the wrong orientation. Check that when cylinder 1 is on TDC of the compression stroke the rotor is pointed towards the drivers seat (roughly) and set the vacuum canister to be aimed at the oil filler box (roughly). This should get your timing in range. Make sure the post inside the distributor cap that the rotor is pointing at is the one for cylinder 1 and then set all the wires from there (1-4-3-2 clockwise). This all sounds very much like a timing issue to me. If I get a chance after work I'll take some pictures.
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post Dec 7 2003, 11:33 AM
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Hmmmmmmmmmmm,

My brother is looking for a project.....gimme money for mine..."IT" runs and I'll see what I can do with baby bro....
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post Dec 7 2003, 12:13 PM
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hmm tempting...if you still have it in a month, I can allocate the proper funds...
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post Dec 7 2003, 03:02 PM
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DrifterJay,

Describe what you did.
We can get it started I am sure....

1) Did you remove the distributor?
2) Did you remove the starter
3) did you remove the wiring and recconect it all, including the plug into the relay panel behind the driver in the engine bay??
4) Did you rebuild the motor?
5) have you checked the firing order??? (s stated above, it will turn, but slower if the plug wires are not correct, but it will not start and could make the starter sound like a pig)

details will help you solve this....
If fuel injected, put the key in the run position, you should hear the fuel pump pre-charge the FI system....a slight wirring should occur and should stop ,,,,about two seconds.

Make sure all your wiring and grounds are connected for the FI system, and are not on the wrond injectors.

Make sure your plug to the pressure sensor, injectors, injector point (on dissy) are connected
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post Dec 7 2003, 03:26 PM
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Jay, Rich is right. This problem can be solved. If it ran when you removed the motor, and you hooked everything back up correctly, it should run. We have to know exactly what you did to the car.

How did you "unstick" the valve?
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post Dec 7 2003, 04:10 PM
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he put new heads on
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post Dec 7 2003, 04:40 PM
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Drifter Jay,

Dunnow if your engine turns over easily.

How did you torque the heads? If you do it wrong, you can oval the case at the crank bearings and and cause a bind or extra drag.

Bought a car from a PO cuz he decided to take his engine out and replace the heads with 2 new ones to fix a valve problem. He got it torqued back together and back into the car only to find it won't turn over.

I got (at a minimum) 2 virgin 2.0l heads that way for $300. Need any free rust? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif).

Hope this helps!

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