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Six Conversion and the Voltage Regulator, SC Alt. has built in Reg. what to do about relay board |
Mike D. |
May 15 2007, 05:43 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! Group: Members Posts: 1,445 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None |
My last six conversion was with an early 2.0 6 so I was fine with the stock 914 4 regulator on the relay board. The engine I am installing now is a 3.0 sc with the internal reg. alt. so now I'm a little confused as to what I should do on the relay board. Do I need to run a jumper wire somewhere?
I know someone out there has BTDT. Thanks, |
iamchappy |
May 15 2007, 06:16 PM
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It all happens so fast! Group: Members Posts: 4,893 Joined: 5-November 03 From: minnetonka, mn Member No.: 1,315 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I just run it without the relay board voltage regulator, everything seems to work fine without it.
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john rogers |
May 15 2007, 06:33 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,525 Joined: 4-March 03 From: Chula Vista CA Member No.: 391 |
After waiting for a couple of years, I finally replaced mine with a pair of water proof electrical connectors so that all the connectors from the input side were still connected to the output side as I use them for other things. If you use the diagram on the Pelican site or in the Haynes manual you can match color to color.
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Series9 |
May 15 2007, 08:09 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
It's not hard. Remove the board and regulator and sell that boat anchor on eBay.
Buy a female version of the 14-pin connector. Call Patrick Motorsports or Porsche. Patrick sells them for around $38. Pull out the wiring diagram and replace either the male on the car side or the one on the engine harness. It requires some simple soldering. When you're finished, the car and engine 14-pin plugs will simply connect together. All you need to know about the internally regulated alternator: Large red: Starter + or battery +. Small blue: Alt. light on the dash. |
Series9 |
May 15 2007, 08:16 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
Here's a picture of the male 14-pin on Waide's engine harness.
I have the cap removed so I can rearrange the pins to match the 914. I then removed the 14-pin male connector from the 914 harness where it used to plug into the firewall side of the relay board and replaced it with a female with the pins arranged to match the engine pin-out. Attached image(s) |
Series9 |
May 15 2007, 08:34 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
The finished connection:
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Mike D. |
May 16 2007, 01:29 PM
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OK, It runs now, and pretty good too! Group: Members Posts: 1,445 Joined: 3-January 03 From: Santa Clarita, Ca Member No.: 85 Region Association: None |
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Eric_Shea |
May 16 2007, 01:51 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Excellent info (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif)
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SLITS |
May 16 2007, 02:48 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
If you get the Porsche Technical Bulletin 1, Model 1974 - 1983 911T, "New Alternator has Integrated Regulator" on replacing external with internal ..... it will tell you exactly what to do.****
**** Just in case you want to retain the /4 relay board. |
Eric_Shea |
May 16 2007, 02:51 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Can you post it?
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Gint |
May 16 2007, 02:56 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
After waiting for a couple of years, I finally replaced mine with a pair of water proof electrical connectors so that all the connectors from the input side were still connected to the output side as I use them for other things. If you use the diagram on the Pelican site or in the Haynes manual you can match color to color. Rather than buy an expensive female connector to match that very expensive male connector, why not replace it with a modern alternative? |
SLITS |
May 16 2007, 03:07 PM
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"This Utah shit is HARSH!" Group: Benefactors Posts: 13,602 Joined: 22-February 04 From: SoCal Mountains ... Member No.: 1,696 Region Association: None |
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Series9 |
May 16 2007, 03:08 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
Question... Rather than buy an expensive female connector to match that very expensive male connector, why not replace it with a modern alternative? 1. $38 isn't very expensive. 2. It's a VERY high quality connector. 3. I've never seen another that will accept the differing sizes of wires necessary to do the job. 4. You would have to replace both sides, instead of one. 5. Most new connectors require a specialized crimping tool to crimp the pins to the wires. That's why. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
May 16 2007, 03:11 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE I'll see if it will scan tonight ...... don't have a scanner at work (that's hooked up) Just re-type it... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/40.gif) |
Series9 |
May 16 2007, 03:11 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
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Series9 |
May 16 2007, 03:12 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
and:
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Eric_Shea |
May 16 2007, 03:13 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Once again, Joe saves yur ass...
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Series9 |
May 16 2007, 03:21 PM
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Lesbians taste like chicken. Group: Members Posts: 5,444 Joined: 22-August 04 From: DeLand, FL Member No.: 2,602 Region Association: South East States |
Once again, Joe saves yur ass... I owe him plenty more 'saves' than that. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
Eric_Shea |
May 16 2007, 03:27 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
QUOTE I owe him plenty more 'saves' than that. Don't tell him that... he'll get all cocky and... then Slits will come out and then... P9 will hit the thread and then... you know (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wacko.gif) |
Gint |
May 16 2007, 04:15 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,075 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Question... Rather than buy an expensive female connector to match that very expensive male connector, why not replace it with a modern alternative? 1. $38 isn't very expensive. 2. It's a VERY high quality connector. 3. I've never seen another that will accept the differing sizes of wires necessary to do the job. 4. You would have to replace both sides, instead of one. 5. Most new connectors require a specialized crimping tool to crimp the pins to the wires. That's why. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/cool.gif) |
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