Gas tank and AN fittings, Can it be this easy? |
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Gas tank and AN fittings, Can it be this easy? |
Phoenix-MN |
May 19 2007, 06:14 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
I was working on getting my fuel tank, fuel pump, and lines intalled today and I have been trying to figure out how to adapt the tank fittings to AN. After getting the tank on the bench and removing the stock fittings and tubes it looked like a 1/4npt pipe thread fitting might fit in the opening of the stock fitting. I dug out my taps and low and behold the 1/4npt tap threaded the hole in the stock fitting quite nicely. Could it realy be this easy? What am I missing? Anyone else done it this way? |
John |
May 19 2007, 07:04 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
That could work, but you may run into clearance issues under the tank (which is why the original fittings make a fairly sharp bend just after exiting the tank).
I like the simple approach. Just make sure it does not leak. |
Phoenix-MN |
May 19 2007, 07:27 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Here is a comparison of the stock tubes and 90deg. -6 AN fittings. It looks like there should be space for this, I'll have to drop the tank into position to check to be sure.
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John |
May 19 2007, 08:15 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Looks good to me. Like I said, just make sure it doesn't leak.
I prefer steel fittings, but that is just me. |
rjames |
May 19 2007, 08:25 PM
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I'm made of metal Group: Members Posts: 3,920 Joined: 24-July 05 From: Shoreline, WA Member No.: 4,467 Region Association: Pacific Northwest |
You'll have plenty of room under the tank with that setup, in fact, it should be even better than stock with respect to fuel hose routing with the 90 degree bends. Looks great!
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Phoenix-MN |
May 19 2007, 08:35 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
John,
The aluminum -6AN to 1/4npt fittings are ones I had on hand. I agree with you on using steel fittings on the tank, I'll be ordering some up Monday. rjames, You are correct, I dropped the tank into position and there is all kinds of room (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif) |
Gint |
May 19 2007, 09:18 PM
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Mike Ginter Group: Admin Posts: 16,066 Joined: 26-December 02 From: Denver CO. Member No.: 20 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Keep this thread updated please! I'm dying to know how that all works out in the end.
Just to be clear, did the AN fittings screw right into the factory fittinga without being tapped? |
sixnotfour |
May 19 2007, 09:36 PM
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914 Wizard Group: Members Posts: 10,418 Joined: 12-September 04 From: Life Elevated..planet UT. Member No.: 2,744 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
It would be great to have an elevated pickup tube, like the factory , So you dont have every little piece of dirt in the system. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)
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John |
May 19 2007, 09:41 PM
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member? what's a member? Group: Members Posts: 3,393 Joined: 30-January 04 From: Evansville, IN (SIRPCA) Member No.: 1,615 Region Association: None |
Keep this thread updated please! I'm dying to know how that all works out in the end. Just to be clear, did the AN fittings screw right into the factory fittinga without being tapped? I think he used the 1/4"NPT tap on the inside of the fittings. (That's how I would have tried doing this.) I too want to know how this works out. I may be doing this with my current (long term) project car. |
Phoenix-MN |
May 19 2007, 10:02 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Yes, the inside of the tank fitting was threaded with a 1/4npt tap. If an elevated pickup tube was wanted you could use a peice of brass tubing and a steel AN fitting and solder them together. My self I don't thik I will use an elevated pickup, just start out with a good clean tank and use a filter before the fuel pump and it should be good to go.
Next step is to figure out where to mount the pre filter, the pump, and where to cut holes for the -6 hose. Attached thumbnail(s) |
andys |
May 19 2007, 11:38 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,165 Joined: 21-May 03 From: Valencia, CA Member No.: 721 Region Association: None |
Paul,
The tap drill size for a 1/4NPT is 7/16" (.4375). What is the inside diameter of the tank fitting? Were you able to get reasonably full thread form? Your method greatly simplifies the challenge of plumbing to the tank. I applaud your thinking out-of-the-box! I'll drag my tank out maybe tomorrow and take a look. I know I have some -6 in aluminum, but I too would prefer steel for this application. Andys |
Phoenix-MN |
May 20 2007, 07:54 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
andys,
The id. of the stock fittings is a little larger than 7/16", I didn't measure the exact size. I think the threads that are cut will be fine, they are just a little deeper on the tap so the fitting screws in a little bit more, but far from bottoming out. The final test will be to put some fitting on with caps, fill the tank and see if it leaks before putting it in the car. Attached thumbnail(s) |
rick 918-S |
May 20 2007, 09:25 AM
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Hey nice rack! -Celette Group: Members Posts: 20,434 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Now in Superior WI Member No.: 43 Region Association: Northstar Region |
You may want to use a sealant on the threads. I would use POR 15. I sealed 1/8" holes in the Healey gas tank with the stuff. Gas won't touch it and if you ever used the stuff and tried to put the lid back on the can and reuse it later you know how well it bonds metal to metal...
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JB 914 |
May 20 2007, 10:39 AM
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Daddy! Finish my car NOW!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 26-September 04 From: Garden Grove, CA Member No.: 2,831 |
You may want to use a sealant on the threads. I would use POR 15. I sealed 1/8" holes in the Healey gas tank with the stuff. Gas won't touch it and if you ever used the stuff and tried to put the lid back on the can and reuse it later you know how well it bonds metal to metal... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) i had a gallon of it. had to buy some empty quart containers from Home Depot to transfer the contents after (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sawzall-smiley.gif) the sealed can. tough stuff |
JB 914 |
May 20 2007, 11:09 AM
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Daddy! Finish my car NOW!!! Group: Members Posts: 1,593 Joined: 26-September 04 From: Garden Grove, CA Member No.: 2,831 |
another thougth would be to use POR PATCH which is a thick POR-15 that comes in a tube. it can be used as a seam sealer or on small repairs.
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turbo914v8 |
May 20 2007, 02:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 373 Joined: 26-July 03 From: Canada Member No.: 952 |
I have done this mod and it works great. I just used blue lock tight no leaks. Good luck with the remainder of your project.
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Cap'n Krusty |
May 22 2007, 03:48 PM
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Cap'n Krusty Group: Members Posts: 10,794 Joined: 24-June 04 From: Santa Maria, CA Member No.: 2,246 Region Association: Central California |
By the looks of what little of the inside of your tank is visible in the picture, you NEED that screen. Rust city. Better get it cleaned and coated before you use it. The Cap'n
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Phoenix-MN |
May 29 2007, 07:23 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
Yup, the inside of the tank is nasty. I found a local place that looks like it's the "ticket"
http://www.gastankrenu.com/index.htm They seem to have several other locations as well. This place was recomended by a local Porsche shop. Paul |
Phoenix-MN |
Jun 30 2007, 11:42 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
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Phoenix-MN |
Jun 30 2007, 11:46 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 927 Joined: 23-January 04 From: ST. Bonifacius,MN Member No.: 1,590 |
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