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post Jun 30 2007, 04:30 PM
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Update -
I installed Tangerine Racing SS fuel lines today, they fit perfect, took about 20 minutes to put them both in (the engine is out). It's real nice when after-market parts work this well.


Where did you get the grommets? Any tips on installation?
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post Jun 30 2007, 06:34 PM
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QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Jun 30 2007, 02:30 PM) *

QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Jun 30 2007, 10:42 AM) *

Update -
I installed Tangerine Racing SS fuel lines today, they fit perfect, took about 20 minutes to put them both in (the engine is out). It's real nice when after-market parts work this well.


Where did you get the grommets? Any tips on installation?


My tub is a '71 so it has separate holes for each line in the front. The holes are slightly oblong but I just used a grommet that was for a 1" hole and a 1/16" panel.

For the rear (you are going to think I'm nuts) I machines a mold out of aluminum to fit the firewall openings and for the 3/8" fuel lines. I used Devcon Flexane 80 to make the grommets.


I realy don't have any tips or tricks, they just slid in but like I said, the engine is out so having room to move around under the car was not a problem.

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post Jun 30 2007, 07:22 PM
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My god Paul, you've got to get a life!

I think I may have to have an intervention on you, frequent visits and beer delivery...
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post Jun 30 2007, 08:10 PM
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My god Paul, you've got to get a life!

I think I may have to have an intervention on you, frequent visits and beer delivery...


Just to re-enforce this fact (that I am nuts) When I rebuilt my front calipers one of the bolts snaped off. The bolt is a 9mm, try to find one of those in the U.S.! NOT - but you can buy 9mm taps and dies.

Well my solution was to take a 10mm bolt chuck it up in a lathe turn it down to 9mm and the run a die over it.

mmmm Beer would be good, just no straight jackets.

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post Jun 30 2007, 09:10 PM
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Ok stranger, I will make a visit soon.....

I have been sand blasting away on my car to clean up trunk and engine bay. Why I started to paint it Signal Orange instead of Black again has set me back some.
I am nuts toooooooooooooooooooooooo.............
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post Jun 30 2007, 10:04 PM
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Where did you get the grommets? Any tips on installation?


For the rear (you are going to think I'm nuts) I machines a mold out of aluminum to fit the firewall openings and for the 3/8" fuel lines. I used Devcon Flexane 80 to make the grommets.

Paul


Not nuts, just a really good problem solver. Hey that means you can make more! I'll take one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

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post Jun 30 2007, 10:08 PM
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Paul im a little nuts too, when i saw that Devcon stuff I started thinking about all of the things i would like to make with it.
Im going to drink another beer and call it a night.
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post Jul 1 2007, 08:43 AM
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QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Jun 30 2007, 08:04 PM) *

QUOTE(Phoenix-MN @ Jun 30 2007, 05:34 PM) *

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Where did you get the grommets? Any tips on installation?


For the rear (you are going to think I'm nuts) I machines a mold out of aluminum to fit the firewall openings and for the 3/8" fuel lines. I used Devcon Flexane 80 to make the grommets.

Paul


Not nuts, just a really good problem solver. Hey that means you can make more! I'll take one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Felix


I guess I could make some (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) the molds are for 3/8" line only. If that will work I'll make up a few, how's $3.00 shipped (USPS) each sound?

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post Jul 1 2007, 12:07 PM
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QUOTE(neo914-6 @ Jun 30 2007, 08:04 PM) *

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Where did you get the grommets? Any tips on installation?


For the rear (you are going to think I'm nuts) I machines a mold out of aluminum to fit the firewall openings and for the 3/8" fuel lines. I used Devcon Flexane 80 to make the grommets.

Paul


Not nuts, just a really good problem solver. Hey that means you can make more! I'll take one (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Felix


I guess I could make some (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) the molds are for 3/8" line only. If that will work I'll make up a few, how's $3.00 shipped (USPS) each sound?

Paul


Thanks, shoot me your PayPal or mailing addy... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

that's $6, right?
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post Jul 18 2007, 02:12 PM
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I wanted to keep the thread alive since I'm starting to configure my V8 fuel delivery system.

After giving some thought to the AN/tank fitting, I too am concerned about not having a raised tube and screen filter in the tank. Any small fragment will potentially settle to the bottom where the opening in the AN fitting is only 3/8" or so. A raised tube by itself I think would be of benefit, but I would like to add a screen as well. So, where to buy one? I would consider adapting the VW screen, but the tube is a bit small in diameter for a V8 EFI system (3/8" would be better).

I will likely add a coarse filter ahead of the EFI pump anyway, but that will be of no help should the tank get clogged.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Andys

PS: Phoenix-NM, how did your AN install work out? Any leaks?
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post Jul 18 2007, 02:32 PM
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Andys,
I haven't put the tank in the car yet but while in the many stages of cleaning I had npt plugs installed. The tank has set overnight with many different "cleaning solutions" in it several times without a drop coming out. I feel confident that there will be no leaking problems. I too have been thinking about the sock filter in the tank. I'm going to try the brass tube idea from the ealier post and figure out a way to attach the stock filter screen to it.

Additional note about cleaning - I used several methods.
1st Washing soda/water electrolysis method
2nd quick wash with muritic acid (hardware store variety)
3rd Overnight soak with weak solution of phosphoric acid
4th KBS tank cleaning/coating kit

The tank cleaned up nicely.

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post Jul 19 2007, 07:51 PM
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Here's how I did a filter screen.
Steel AN fitting drilled out to .345 in.
Short piece of .343 o.d brass tubing
Stainless steel wire cloth

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post Jul 19 2007, 07:55 PM
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Next - silver soldered the tube to the AN fitting and rolled the wire cloth into a tube
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post Jul 19 2007, 07:59 PM
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Finally - Soldered the wire tube to the brass and crimped and soldered the end. It's rugged, removable, and easily cleaned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Jul 19 2007, 10:59 PM
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Nice job Paul, you always amaze me....
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post Jul 19 2007, 11:01 PM
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Nice job Paul, you always amaze me....
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post Jul 19 2007, 11:10 PM
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That is very impressive, can you make another one for me? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Paul,

Nice job.

What mesh is the screen? Also, did you solder the seam along its length?

I considered buying screen from McMaster-Carr (probably 50X what I need), but thought it easier to buy the VW screen and solder it to the AN fitting.

BTW, are you going to use braided hose? I'm thinking rubber (AN Twist-Tite), as it's more flexible and not prone to abrading anything that it comes in contact with.

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Finally - Soldered the wire tube to the brass and crimped and soldered the end. It's rugged, removable, and easily cleaned. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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Most excellent ingenuity! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/pray.gif)
Put me down for one should you decide to make up a batch.
Everyone should order this from you-rust is inevitable...
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skline,
Sorry, I really don't want to get into making these for others, if you have a soldering skills, a drill press, and time, it's a pretty simple part to make youself.

andys,
I don't know the mesh count on the wire screen, it's was from a piece that I had laying around. It isn't as fine as the stock screen but it is a lot finer that "window screen". I tacked the seam about every 1/2in. and it holds well, I can post a picture of the seam tonight. If you do get a piece from McMaster be sure it is a stainless steel alloy that can be silver soldered using the correct flux.

I'm using both the socketless hose and braided hose. The socketless for connecting to the SS 3/8in. lines in the tunnel and stainless braided for the rest of the car (boy! the $$ add up quick). The Aeroquip AQP socketless hose and fittings really grip and make a solid seal, the stuff works real good. If I was to do it all over again I would probably use the socketless hose throughout.

Paul
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