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Aux Air Regulator Failure Modes |
customstarr |
Jun 28 2007, 07:27 AM
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King of the Nighttime World Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 13-February 07 From: Waterford, Michigan - Home of Waterford Hills Road Racing Member No.: 7,531 |
I think that I'm having a prob with my AAR. Idle fluctuates up and down (1000+ RPMs down to near stall) during a cold start - it continues the up/down cycle for a few minutes then it's fine.
This morning during a cold start, I pulled & plugged the hose from the AAR to the Intake Boot (plugged the intake also) and the idle stabilized - granted the idle was low, but it did stop the up/down fluctuation. From Anders site, I was under the impression that the regulator would either stick open or closed, causing a high or low idle respectively. Mine seems as if it won't stay open consistantly during a cold start - it's like it's opening and closing & causing the idle fluctuation. Has anybody experienced this same condition? |
jim_hoyland |
Jun 28 2007, 08:58 AM
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Get that VIN ? Group: Members Posts: 9,319 Joined: 1-May 03 From: Sunset Beach, CA Member No.: 643 Region Association: Southern California |
Take it out and do a simple bench test. I put mine into the fridge for a 1/2 hour. Pull it out and see how far the hole is open. Mine goes to 30-50% open. Then I hook the AAR to the battery and see how long it takes to close off the hole. Mine take from 1 1/2 min to 2 min. If it just closes with power applied it works.
Your description sounds more like a vacuum leak. Been there too; I ended up installing a VDO vac gauge in the engine compartment. It gets T'd into one of the lines going to the plenum. Mine averages 10-12 lb at idle. Any leaks and it drops alot. Good luck. |
customstarr |
Jun 28 2007, 10:05 AM
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King of the Nighttime World Group: Members Posts: 116 Joined: 13-February 07 From: Waterford, Michigan - Home of Waterford Hills Road Racing Member No.: 7,531 |
Take it out and do a simple bench test. I put mine into the fridge for a 1/2 hour. Pull it out and see how far the hole is open. Mine goes to 30-50% open. Then I hook the AAR to the battery and see how long it takes to close off the hole. Mine take from 1 1/2 min to 2 min. If it just closes with power applied it works. Your description sounds more like a vacuum leak. Been there too; I ended up installing a VDO vac gauge in the engine compartment. It gets T'd into one of the lines going to the plenum. Mine averages 10-12 lb at idle. Any leaks and it drops alot. Good luck. Thanks. I don't have any vac leaks - checked that a long time ago. Like I stated, when I remove & plug the AAR line from the intake, the idle stabilizes. |
highways |
Jun 28 2007, 07:21 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 18-June 05 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 4,296 |
I am experiencing the same fluctuating problem. Idle ocillates betwee 1,200 Rpm and like 600. Re-did all the vacuum lines at this point.. I think there's little chance of a significant leak right now. Other then that- I don't know where to begin. I did buy a complete D-jet setup so I can start swapping out parts and hopefully find it.
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Dave_Darling |
Jun 29 2007, 03:00 AM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,991 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Failure modes for the AAR:
1: Freezes open, so you get normal idle when cold and rather high idle when warm. 2: Sticks partway open, so you get low idle when cold and high idle when warm. 3: The heater doesn't work (broken filament or wire, or unplugged) so you get normal idle when cold, high idle when partly-warm, and after a looong while normal idle when good and warm. They usually don't stick closed--and the partway open thing is also pretty rare. #1 and #3 are the typical failure modes. Sounds like you have a lean mixture, causing an "idle hunt". If your car is a late 71, try tweaking the knob on the ECU a few clicks clockwise. If not, try unplugging the intake air temp sensor on the manifold to see if that makes a difference. (That one should richen the mixture a little across the range.) --DD |
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