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> What grade gas do you use?, In your teener
Gas Grades
What grade gas do you usually put in your teener?
Regular (85-87) [ 65 ] ** [31.71%]
Plus (88-90) [ 21 ] ** [10.24%]
Premium (91+) [ 117 ] ** [57.07%]
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post Jul 12 2007, 02:43 PM
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98 RON all the time, but it will run fine on 96. The 98 costs about US$1.20 per litre.
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post Jul 13 2007, 08:35 AM
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QUOTE(shelby/914 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:05 AM) *

My '76 2.0L with FI runs just fine on 85 octane, which is regular at our altitude. It is also what my independent Porsche shop recommended.


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post Jul 13 2007, 10:25 AM
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QUOTE(BMartin914 @ Jul 13 2007, 07:35 AM) *

QUOTE(shelby/914 @ Jul 12 2007, 07:05 AM) *

My '76 2.0L with FI runs just fine on 85 octane, which is regular at our altitude. It is also what my independent Porsche shop recommended.


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Same here... anything more is just a waste of cash.
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post Jul 13 2007, 12:37 PM
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Air cooled engine + hot climate. Premium for me.
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post Jul 13 2007, 03:02 PM
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QUOTE(9146986 @ Jul 11 2007, 04:46 PM) *
The higher the octane the slower the burn. The higher octane, the more additives the fuel has in it, which ends up on the top of your piston and on you cylinder head. The more carbon build up you get means it raises the compression and you get carbon hot spots on the piston or cylinder head which results in pre-ignition, so you run higher octane fuel and the endless cycle continues.

Hmm, I've always ran premium, which is 93 octane here on the east-coast.
Question now is how do you get all the carbon/additive buildup out of the engine? Should I use some kind of upper engine cleaner or BG44K?

Anyone have any suggestions?

I'll fill up with 87 next time I need gas, see if it pings (BTW my car is a carb'd 2.0 with mild mods).
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post Jul 13 2007, 05:24 PM
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I've always run 93 or higher. I don't have any carbon bldging up in my motor.
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post Jul 13 2007, 08:46 PM
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I run 87 octane. No problems - it IS a VW motor after all. When I was in the Army (decades ago) I used to swipe the 5 gallon reserve cans of 65 octane MOGAS from my Jeep & put it in my 65 Beetle. Ran great & free.

Yeah, I know it was "not quite right", but the bastards yanked me out of college! All because I had a 0.8 accum. See "Animal House". I got over it.
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post Jul 13 2007, 09:00 PM
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89 seemed to work, and I think was recommended by the mechanic as well. However I do agree it's all a waste of cash which could be used on sooooo many cool parts.
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post Jul 13 2007, 11:38 PM
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QUOTE(Gustl @ Jul 11 2007, 02:05 PM) *

the sticker says 91 - so I use 91

btw - our gas stations offer 91, 95, 98 and some of them even 100 ...

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We have some gas stations in California that offer 100 Octane at about $5.50 USD a gallon.

Tracks sell several grades up to 110.

I occasionally buy 5 gallon cans of 110 leaded race gas at a local speed shop for about $9.00 USD a gallon.
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post Jul 13 2007, 11:43 PM
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Wow, trick racing 110 up here is only 6.25 a gallon. At the track there is Sonoco and others you can buy, but they sell trick near my house.
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post Jul 15 2007, 08:06 AM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jul 13 2007, 10:46 PM) *

When I was in the Army (decades ago) I used to swipe the 5 gallon reserve cans of 65 octane MOGAS from my Jeep & put it in my 65 Beetle. Ran great & free.

Yeah, I know it was "not quite right", but the bastards yanked me out of college!


Umm, doesn't this belong in the "tell us your sins" thread?

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post Jul 15 2007, 04:38 PM
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I run 93 since this is the high grade fuel here. I will go down as the engine can handle it. If you can put lead aditives in your fuel do it; specially on new engines. Use the grade that dosen't make your engine ping when all is tunes up. A little Marvelous Mystery Oil dosen't hurt either in your fuel to get rid of carbon deposits. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)
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post Jul 15 2007, 07:13 PM
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I run 93 in my modified 2.7L/6
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post Jul 16 2007, 01:19 PM
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Seems to me that guys with stock teeners run the regular more and guys with built engines (ie higher compression) run premium. Does that sound like a reasonable statement?
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post Jul 16 2007, 06:55 PM
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Yes you are correct brother except for me. I run premium to mix with all the oil it burns (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif)

Actually it is due to compresion ratio. When one gets to or passed 9:1, higher octanes are needed to keep air/fuel mixture from combusting ahead of timing as in pinging or preigniting.
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post Jul 16 2007, 10:47 PM
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QUOTE(shelby/914 @ Jul 12 2007, 08:05 AM) *

My '76 2.0L with FI runs just fine on 85 octane, which is regular at our altitude. It is also what my independent Porsche shop recommended.



Dan,
you can get away with less octane at altitude. (and on cool days)
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post Jul 17 2007, 02:45 PM
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Having only ever owned modern cars before I bought my teener last year, I've been feeding it premium. The car seems to run great, but apparently I've been suffering from a common minconception, that premium fuel is better/cleaner/whatever than regular. Maybe it'll run even better on regular! I love this site, I'm always learning stuff.

That said, I want to try out some 87. A lot of people have said something along the lines of "as low as you can go w/o engine knock". So what exactly to I listen/feel for? Engine knock is not something I've ever experienced, at least not as far as I know.

Because I understand it's a consideration, I'm driving a stock '74 2.0 @ 3500 feet.

And please, be gentle...like I said, I'm learning. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

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post Jul 17 2007, 11:57 PM
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You should be fine running reg. Just make sure you are not going to stations that have chitty gas. I swear by Chevron, but shell and 76 are good. I have had to drain a few customers cars who said they only fill up at Safeway and other club stations. The detugents are what is really not good for these old cars. That is why I run 110 leaded in my six. So, go to Chevron and fill with reg and see how it goes. If it knocks it will sound like a pinging noise. It shouldn't though.
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post Jul 18 2007, 11:34 AM
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I used mid grade until I realized that mine ran as well on regular Chevron as anything else. I've got a 4 cyl 2.3.
BTW: Porsche recommends the Techron as a FI injector cleaner.
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87 in the DD's, 91 Shell in everything else (including ATV, lawn tractor, weed eater, etc) because it has no methanol in it up here.
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