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| SirAndy |
  Jul 20 2007, 03:58 AM
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Resident German  Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California  |
so, tonight i was trying to get a feeling for my recent suspension setup changes and i tried to do a "spirited" takeoff, and i got a lot of noise (rpm) and just a little bit tire-squeal and not much oomph ...
and then it smelled very much like burned clutch ... coincidentally, i got a brand new clutch and pressure plate (high torque) sitting right here next to me, so i guess now is probably a good time to put that in. question is, can i (comfortably) change the clutch without completely removing the transmission? i'd rather not disconnect the axles, if i don't have to. if i support the engine with a jack, can i balance the tranny on another jack and move it far enough backwards to get to the clutch ???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy |
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| jwalters |
Jul 20 2007, 05:53 AM
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Sooo Close....... Group: Members Posts: 1,677 Joined: 14-May 04 From: Huntsville, AL Member No.: 2,068 Region Association: Europe |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Jul 20 2007, 05:58 AM)  so, tonight i was trying to get a feeling for my recent suspension setup changes and i tried to do a "spirited" takeoff, and i got a lot of noise (rpm) and just a little bit tire-squeal and not much oomph ... and then it smelled very much like burned clutch ... coincidentally, i got a brand new clutch and pressure plate (high torque) sitting right here next to me, so i guess now is probably a good time to put that in. question is, can i (comfortably) change the clutch without completely removing the transmission? i'd rather not disconnect the axles, if i don't have to. if i support the engine with a jack, can i balance the tranny on another jack and move it far enough backwards to get to the clutch ???? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) Andy Well Andy, I believe you can do that. I went out to the shop and got a used complete axle. By placing on a table to keep all components in-line, I then deflected it to the fullest extent possible (this to simulate attached to the stubs) and the total movement was like 7 inches. So I would think, being the mechanically savvy person you are, if you can get just 6 inches, your golden.. BTW - I think there is a joke wrapped up in here somewhere -- (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif) J |
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| degreeoff |
Jul 20 2007, 08:22 AM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
well my opinion (unless your hotrod has a different setup) is why ?? It seems to me workin in such a confined area would be a bigger PIA than just pullin the trans.
My $.02 |
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| echocanyons |
Jul 20 2007, 12:06 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Benefactors Posts: 2,094 Joined: 24-December 02 From: Bay Area, CA Member No.: 7 Region Association: Central California 
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FWIW I have had trouble realigning the 6 engine and trans while under the car.
Because of this I just yank the whole thing and separate when I have too. It's only like 12cv bolts or something right? |
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| Chris Pincetich |
Jul 20 2007, 12:25 PM
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B-) Group: Members Posts: 2,082 Joined: 3-October 05 From: Point Reyes Station, CA Member No.: 4,907 Region Association: Northern California |
Lining up the clutch disk in the centerline w/o a good view or access for a alignment tool might be very difficult.
I say go for it! You might be able to swing the transaxle down to the ground, at least until the tail bumps inot the trunk floor, to get more access. Once the CVs come apart, gotta think new gaskets and washers....maybe. Getter done! This is a big weekend for AX racing in NorCal, I'd hate for you to miss out completely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) |
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| SirAndy |
Jul 20 2007, 12:29 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,640 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(ChrisNPDrider @ Jul 20 2007, 10:25 AM) Getter done! This is a big weekend for AX racing in NorCal, I'd hate for you to miss out completely. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) i don't have time to work on it today, so i might just show up and run with a slipping clutch .... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Andy |
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| McMark |
Jul 20 2007, 05:02 PM
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914 Freak! Group: Retired Admin Posts: 20,179 Joined: 13-March 03 From: Grand Rapids, MI Member No.: 419 Region Association: None |
You could probably gain enough access by allowing the transmission to droop, rotating at the axles. You would probably need two jacks to adequately support the weird movements.
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| 2-OH! |
Jul 20 2007, 05:47 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 552 Joined: 17-October 03 From: Santa Clarita, Kalifornication Member No.: 1,253 |
Andy,
If you didn't have a MILLION HP you wouldn't have this problem... 2-OH! |
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| J P Stein |
Jul 20 2007, 06:16 PM
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Irrelevant old fart Group: Members Posts: 8,797 Joined: 30-December 02 From: Vancouver, WA Member No.: 45 Region Association: None |
Don't run (AX) with a slipping clutch. If it slips in 1st it's going to slip worse in 2nd on up should you tip hard into the throttle. It could overheat the face of the flywheel/shread the disc then you would have to have the flywheel surfaced. No sense adding to your woes, eh?
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