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> Did the factory lack on paint, on the sails?
jonferns
post Jul 26 2007, 07:28 PM
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hey! well, I figure this belongs here, as it does have to do with whether the "factory" did something or not (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ....

well, I removed the original sail vinyl (original, as far as I know), and on the passenger side sail, there is a lack of paint....the driver side is fully painted.... the problem is the upper sail, because the majority of it is painted fine, but then the paint fades to almost nothing....

now the question: is it possible that it came like this, or was there a repair along the road???

PASS. SIDE SAIL
(IMG:http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/sendjonathanmail/IMG_0072.jpg)


DRIVER SIDE SAIL
(IMG:http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/sendjonathanmail/IMG_0073.jpg)

thanks so much
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Pat Garvey
post Jul 26 2007, 08:44 PM
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Jon,
I suspect a repair was made along the way. before I had mine repainted in '79, I took off the vinyl, expecting to see a shortcut in painting underneath. Nope, it was fully painted. I could have left the new vinyl off, because the paint underneath was perfect.

Yeah, I think your panel have had repair in the past.

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post Jul 26 2007, 08:58 PM
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hmm...the paint matches the body fine....and it just fades up...no line seperating new/old paint, etc....interesting....thanks pat! -JON
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post Jul 27 2007, 02:40 AM
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The factory did it that way. I've seen it on countless cars, but not all cars. It depends on the prerogative of the man with the spray gun that day.
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post Jul 28 2007, 08:05 PM
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QUOTE(McMark @ Jul 27 2007, 02:40 AM) *

The factory did it that way. I've seen it on countless cars, but not all cars. It depends on the prerogative of the man with the spray gun that day.

Well Mark - you've undoubtedly seen more 914's "in the flesh" than I, but I have never seen that effect on a fatory painted 914. I would assume that the painters had no idea as to whether or not a 914 was going to be equipped with app grp options, & would have been told to paint them all the same.

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post Jul 29 2007, 10:09 PM
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QUOTE(Pat Garvey @ Jul 28 2007, 06:05 PM) *

I would assume that the painters had no idea as to whether or not a 914 was going to be equipped with app grp options, & would have been told to paint them all the same.


i tend to (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) ....
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post Jul 29 2007, 11:16 PM
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Are you suggesting the holes for the aluminum sail panel trim were drilled AFTER paint? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) I doubt that. I think some of the painters had a big enough brain to see those holes and think, "Warum sollte ich es malen, wenn es bedeckt werden wird?"
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post Jul 31 2007, 04:28 PM
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I agree with Mark. I have seen others where the sail was not fully painted. I also agree that the holes had to be drilled before painting.
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post Jul 31 2007, 04:35 PM
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My 70 had the original vinyl on it, and once I pulled it off the top of the rollbar had thinner paint just like Jon's. It looked almost like just tack coat on the top.
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post Jul 31 2007, 07:42 PM
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I think this is perplexing, from several standpoints. Could this be a thread similar to the paint stampings on sheetmetal?

Some of you guys have seen more 914's up-close & personal than I, so I'll have to defer to your sightings.

But, when I peeled off the vinyl in '79 on mine & cleaned up the adhesive remains, it looked so nice that I almost left the vinyl off.

Another thing. After 6 months on the wait list for a 240Z, which was delivered in the wrong color (was told to take it or leave it-I left it) I went directly to the Porsche/Audi dealer that I bought my 914 from. Told them I wanted Irish Green with appearance group. They had a non-app grp Irish Green & said "no problem", "we'll just swap the parts from another 914, which meant they'd have to drill holes for the sail panel trim (which I didn't even know about then). Told them NO & asked when the next app grp car was coming in. Told me 2 weeks, but it would be Bahia Red (this was June '72 - the 2 liter cars were in production).

I finally said OK to red & was overjoyed when it came in. After a couple of weeks of driving & cleaning, I noted that the tires were the wrong size and the wheels were 4 1/2 inch (my COA calls for the correct wheels & tires). Pissed off, I went to them & bitched. They finally owned up to swapping the wheels & tires from my 914 to another! Told them to fix the situation, or I'd take them to court. Took them a while (& who knows what poor sap got the wrong wheels/tires on his 914) & they replaced them - then wanted to charge me labor!

Told them I'd take them to court! No charge for labor & they threw in a Bursch exhaust (cool in '72!). Ask me sometime what the Bursch exhaust did to my rear pan!

So, if you think car dealers are bad people today - they're nice guys compared to those of the '60's & '70's. They were truely slime then.
Didn't matter what they were selling either. Porsche had no corner on gentillity, because it didn't exist.

Still, interesting to hear these paint comment.
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post Aug 1 2007, 10:42 PM
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My 70 -6 that was the same color as Jon's exhibited the same behavior as show in the pics and it is as Mark described as well.
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post Aug 2 2007, 06:20 PM
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I'm puzzled by the paint inconsictancies in the paintwork. Agree that there must have been an indicator to the painter as to whether a 914 was app grp or not - guess the lower trim holes might be the giveaway, but the thin paint on the app grp cars (& not all have it) means they spent MORE on paint for the non-app grp cars!

However, production methodology was pretty universaaly crude during that period & it shouldn't surprise me. Bet that today they wouldn't even offer vinyl sail panels or roll bar top. At least the paint would be consistent.
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post Aug 6 2007, 02:39 PM
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Here's a close up of the top of my Canary yellow -6.

(IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads/post-1110-1175483382.jpg)

Here's the top cleaned of all the glue along with the new paint on the sail panels. You can see the contrasting colors easily in this example.

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post Aug 6 2007, 11:49 PM
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QUOTE(jd74914 @ Jul 31 2007, 03:35 PM) *

My 70 had the original vinyl on it, and once I pulled it off the top of the rollbar had thinner paint just like Jon's. It looked almost like just tack coat on the top.


same with my 76..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif)
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post Aug 7 2007, 08:22 PM
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Looks like Jon's drivers side was repainted at one time.
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post Aug 7 2007, 11:07 PM
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Mine have a check mark on the sails...I'll take a pic
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post Aug 8 2007, 12:07 AM
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QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 7 2007, 06:22 PM) *

Looks like Jon's drivers side was repainted at one time.

Yup. Body damage.... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/unsure.gif)
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post Aug 8 2007, 08:34 AM
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yea, i do believe that, because there is slight repair work that can be seen underneath the driverside rear fender.....looks like good work though.... --JON (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
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post Aug 23 2007, 03:01 PM
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My yellow 73 was the same way, I was suprised to find it this way; Daker yellow fading into a lighter yellow all the way accross the top of the bar. Mike
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post Aug 24 2007, 10:17 PM
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i see a trend here.

so far, only YELLOW cars seem to be lacking paint under the vinyl ...
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