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Pat Garvey
post Apr 3 2007, 08:16 PM
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It ocurs to me that we've forgotten the various combination of wheel offered by the factory for 914's.

I see to recollect (VERY dangerous) that there were:

Steel - four versions (maybe 5)

Alloy - five versions

I know there were different widths available in some, but I'm talking about design.

I'll start - these are 5 1/2J steel wheels from an early car with appearance group. Yes, they've been rstored & no, they do not have the proper flat black center spray around the lugs.

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Johny Blackstain
post Aug 7 2007, 06:05 PM
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If James is correct in his post above it would seem the Vredestein would be the appropriate tire for me @ Concours. They have a 165HR15 & would appear to be period correct.

James, you are aware though that the Michelin XAS is a tubed tire & will not fit onto a Mahle or a Fuchs? The only tubeless Michelin available is the XZX, @ $131.00/per (Coker), & SR rated. Also, my Kardex says I have to have HR tires so there is documentation that says what tires the car came w/ besides the tank sticker. To preserve a car properly would involve not only the right size but the right rating.

I've chosen to go w/ the OEM gambit- "Dunlop SP 57" 165HR15 was my original tire. "Dunlop SP Sport A2+" 195/65HR15 is what she'll have in Charolette. Both are HR rated & both are the "SP" model from Dunlop. I am planning on bringing my Kardex, Bill of Sale & COA to Charolette, as required? Should I bring my old "SP57" as well?

I would also presume from James's posting that the Kuhmo 165/80HR15 available from "The Tire Rack" @ $32.00/per is the best choice for every CW except those in preservation, because Kuhmo was not around in 1976.


BTW- sick as a dog... summertime flu has got me again. I can go outside in shorts & a T shirt in winter & not get sick. In & out of AC into the Southern heat is murder on my body. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)


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post Aug 8 2007, 08:14 AM
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James, you are aware though that the Michelin XAS is a tubed tire & will not fit onto a Mahle or a Fuchs? The only tubeless Michelin available is the XZX, @ $131.00/per (Coker), & SR rated. Also, my Kardex says I have to have HR tires so there is documentation that says what tires the car came w/ besides the tank sticker. To preserve a car properly would involve not only the right size but the right rating.

I've chosen to go w/ the OEM gambit- "Dunlop SP 57" 165HR15 was my original tire. "Dunlop SP Sport A2+" 195/65HR15 is what she'll have in Charolette. Both are HR rated & both are the "SP" model from Dunlop. I am planning on bringing my Kardex, Bill of Sale & COA to Charolette, as required? Should I bring my old "SP57" as well?



Yes, I am aware that XAS are tube type (a pain to balance and more $$). My Mahle's (5 bolt) accept them without any problems. I've not found any restrictions to tubetype tires and Mahles/Fuchs anywhere.

As I theorize, to be period correct, the tire must have the correct size (width and profile, and speed rating. In my case the ZXZ would not meet the speed rating.

The use of 195/65HR15 in my opinion would not meet the original spec as the width and profile is different than the 165HR15 that your sticker indicates. I'm not sure what good bringing an old "SP57" when you have newer profile "A2's" mounted, other than pointing out that you have different tires. <grin>

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Pat Garvey   Wheels and Tires   Apr 3 2007, 08:16 PM
Jasfsmith   5 1/2" x 15" 10-spoke MAHLE "gasbur...   Apr 4 2007, 09:07 AM
Pat Garvey   5 1/2" x 15" 10-spoke MAHLE "gasbu...   Apr 4 2007, 07:59 PM
Jasfsmith   5 1/2" x 15" 10-spoke MAHLE "gasb...   Apr 6 2007, 09:05 AM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='Pat Garvey' post='884201' date='Apr ...   Apr 6 2007, 08:11 PM
Jasfsmith   No deals, straight $191 per tire plus ...   Apr 8 2007, 09:48 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   An early 5.5 x 15 Pedrinni   Apr 4 2007, 01:19 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Pat, Iffen those be the jackstands you plan to us...   Apr 4 2007, 01:49 PM
Johny Blackstain   Pat, Iffen those be the jackstands you plan to u...   Apr 4 2007, 01:51 PM
Pat Garvey   Pat, Iffen those be the jackstands you plan to u...   Apr 4 2007, 07:55 PM
Johny Blackstain   [quote name='1970 Neun vierzehn' post='884071' da...   Apr 5 2007, 01:52 PM
Johny Blackstain   15"x5.5" 4 bolt Creamsicle Mahle. :sha...   Apr 4 2007, 02:13 PM
Pat Garvey   I' wichha Johnny! Going shopping tomorrow...   Apr 5 2007, 07:02 PM
Pat Garvey   What? No one has Fuchs alloys?   Apr 6 2007, 08:12 PM
Johny Blackstain   What? No one has Fuchs alloys? I do but they...   Apr 6 2007, 09:49 PM
McMark   http://www.914world.com/members/markd/misc/wheel/f...   Apr 30 2007, 04:11 AM
Pat Garvey   Thanks McMark - burgers on me! Finally a Fuch...   Apr 30 2007, 07:27 PM
McMark   More wheels: These are the fuchs that came on th...   May 7 2007, 04:10 AM
sendjonathanmail   heres mine... http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/...   May 11 2007, 10:03 PM
Dan (Almaden Valley)   here are mine after hand polishing   May 12 2007, 12:37 AM
Pat Garvey   here are mine after hand polishing Dan, those ar...   May 12 2007, 08:25 PM
robby750   here are mine after hand polishing Dan, those a...   May 17 2007, 10:18 PM
nowlings   In reference to the 4 bolt fuchs, I notice that in...   Jun 21 2007, 05:31 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   :wttc: The center caps used on 5 bolt Fuchs all...   Jun 21 2007, 05:44 PM
nowlings   :wttc: The center caps used on 5 bolt Fuchs al...   Jun 21 2007, 05:55 PM
Pat Garvey   :wttc: The center caps used on 5 bolt Fuchs a...   Jun 21 2007, 06:01 PM
nowlings   [quote name='nowlings' post='914315' date='Jun 21...   Jun 21 2007, 06:12 PM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='nowlings' post='914315' date='Jun 2...   Jun 21 2007, 06:17 PM
Pat Garvey   Ok, we have several threads going that have been h...   Aug 6 2007, 09:34 PM
Jasfsmith   Ok, we have several threads going that have been ...   Aug 7 2007, 12:52 PM
Johny Blackstain   If James is correct in his post above it would see...   Aug 7 2007, 06:05 PM
Jasfsmith   James, you are aware though that the Michelin XA...   Aug 8 2007, 08:14 AM
Jasfsmith   If James is correct in his post above it would se...   Aug 8 2007, 08:41 AM
Pat Garvey   I'm awaiting additional responses. But, at th...   Aug 7 2007, 08:06 PM
Jasfsmith   I'm awaiting additional responses. But, at t...   Aug 8 2007, 08:22 AM
Johny Blackstain   Pat- here is the link to the Kuhmos on The Tire Ra...   Aug 7 2007, 08:12 PM
Pat Garvey   Pat- here is the link to the Kuhmos on The Tire R...   Aug 7 2007, 09:19 PM
Johny Blackstain   Al, Know what scares me? Two things: 1. Haven...   Aug 7 2007, 09:33 PM
Jasfsmith   3. Will they be accepted, regardless of proper ...   Aug 8 2007, 08:55 AM
Porsche Rescue   I once put the Kuhmos on a 66 911 with stock 4.5...   Aug 7 2007, 08:54 PM
Jasfsmith   I once put the Kuhmos on a 66 911 with stock 4.5...   Aug 8 2007, 08:29 AM
Porsche Rescue   One more time James: (my need is for a '69 912...   Aug 8 2007, 10:01 AM
Jasfsmith   One more time James: (my need is for a '69 91...   Aug 8 2007, 01:38 PM
Porsche Rescue   '69 was 5.5 as was '68; 66 & 7 were 4....   Aug 8 2007, 01:56 PM
Jasfsmith   I do use the car for local PCA tours and sometime...   Aug 9 2007, 12:03 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   This whole business of perfectly sized, branded an...   Aug 9 2007, 10:12 AM
Jasfsmith   This whole business of perfectly sized, branded a...   Aug 9 2007, 11:48 AM
Porsche Rescue   All very true and well said Paul. On the "pri...   Aug 9 2007, 10:42 AM
Jasfsmith   All very true and well said Paul. On the "pr...   Aug 9 2007, 11:51 AM
1970 Neun vierzehn   My '70 914-4 came with 155SR15's on ste...   Aug 9 2007, 12:27 PM
Johny Blackstain   I wonder if George can have a custom gas tank stic...   Aug 9 2007, 01:25 PM
Porsche Rescue   James, are you saying that the 165HR Vredesteins w...   Aug 10 2007, 02:31 PM
Jasfsmith   James, are you saying that the 165HR Vredesteins ...   Aug 11 2007, 02:51 PM
Porsche Rescue   My manual, in the technical data section, specifie...   Aug 11 2007, 06:41 PM
orthobiz   Pat! I'm surprised at you. All those naile...   Aug 13 2007, 04:49 PM
Pat Garvey   tsk, tsk, tsk! A man in your position with a ...   Aug 13 2007, 05:16 PM
orthobiz   Thanks, Pat, for the posting help. So, is my spar...   Aug 13 2007, 05:26 PM
orthobiz   Front and back of the 15" Steelies from 1974 ...   Aug 13 2007, 05:32 PM
Porsche Rescue   Here I go again! Ortho's example is why I ...   Aug 13 2007, 05:57 PM
Jasfsmith   Here I go again! Ortho's example is why I...   Aug 14 2007, 07:54 AM
Porsche Rescue   I'm sure you're right. When I bought my ne...   Aug 14 2007, 09:55 AM
Jasfsmith   I'm sure you're right. When I bought my n...   Aug 14 2007, 02:14 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   The chrome early style wheels were 5 1/2"....   Aug 14 2007, 03:04 PM
Jasfsmith   The chrome early style wheels were 5 1/2...   Aug 15 2007, 08:59 AM
Porsche Rescue   Those are aftermarket wheels. The d...   Aug 14 2007, 03:23 PM
Pat Garvey   Those are aftermarket wheels. The ...   Aug 14 2007, 08:04 PM
Porsche Rescue   Above is the wheel in painted steel, except it i...   Aug 14 2007, 08:23 PM
orthobiz   Above is the wheel in painted steel, except it i...   Aug 14 2007, 10:16 PM
Pat Garvey   [quote name='Porsche Rescue' post='935056' date='...   Aug 15 2007, 08:07 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   Here's the wheel pic: Paul Centers - wit...   Aug 23 2007, 01:45 PM
Ferg   Gint's car the zambeziteen had the 5.5 chromie...   Aug 15 2007, 09:18 AM
Porsche Rescue   James, my '70 pictured above came from the sho...   Aug 15 2007, 09:39 AM
Jasfsmith   James, my '70 pictured above came from the sh...   Aug 15 2007, 03:36 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   :deadhorse: Incontrovertible proof of factory sp...   Aug 23 2007, 01:41 PM
anderssj   Like this?   Aug 25 2007, 09:49 PM
Pat Garvey   Like this? Yep.........course, if it's cover...   Aug 26 2007, 09:48 AM
sendjonathanmail   spare http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q44/...   Sep 9 2007, 02:57 PM
davep   I'm finally reading this thread. One combo you...   Sep 23 2007, 09:37 AM
Pat Garvey   I'm finally reading this thread. One combo yo...   Sep 23 2007, 10:02 AM
Porsche Rescue   Will be stamped "5 1/2 J 15" on the outs...   Sep 23 2007, 10:26 AM
SirAndy   Also will have "ET 40" which is the off...   Jan 16 2008, 04:12 PM
davep   Jim has it correct. The 'J' for tubeless w...   Sep 23 2007, 12:47 PM
Pat Garvey   Jim has it correct. The 'J' for tubeless ...   Sep 23 2007, 07:59 PM
914pwer   i had four of these on my 914-4 -71 it is remotec ...   Dec 5 2007, 05:43 PM
slackin' at work   could someone tell me the original finish for a Pe...   Jan 8 2008, 08:47 AM
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black73   Has anyone mentioned steel wheels painted body c...   Jan 12 2008, 01:14 PM
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Ferg   Well, I am the second owner of this car and I am ...   Jan 16 2008, 03:06 PM
Pat Garvey   Any other historians care to step in here? Pat   Jan 13 2008, 08:52 PM
1970 Neun vierzehn   I would venture to say that if that 914 had paint-...   Jan 13 2008, 10:25 PM
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