 Carrera Style Front Sway Bar in a 914 |
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| Chuck |
 Aug 14 2007, 10:25 PM
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What it eventually will look like . . . .  Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Maple Grove, MN Member No.: 7,632 Region Association: Northstar Region  |
I've been meaning to ask . . . I purchased a late 80's Carrera front end for my 914. It came with one of the underbody mount sway bars.
My question is this: What is better in our cars, an underbody sway bar or a through body sway bar? |
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| Eric_Shea |
Aug 14 2007, 10:28 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains  |
Through body has better geometry and a much better selection of bars and arms to choose from.
The 20mm Carrera bar will work fine if that's all you want or have but, I'm a through body fan. |
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| Brando |
Aug 14 2007, 10:38 PM
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BUY MY SPARE KIDNEY!!! Group: Members Posts: 3,935 Joined: 29-August 04 From: Santa Ana, CA Member No.: 2,648 Region Association: Southern California |
Definitely go through-body for added benefits. If you want to keep it simple and future minimal-adjustability, stay with the under-body style.
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| Chuck |
Aug 14 2007, 11:15 PM
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What it eventually will look like . . . . Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Maple Grove, MN Member No.: 7,632 Region Association: Northstar Region |
This is going to be a street car - no track days planned in its future. Plan to do a turbo subie transplant (~300hp) with flares. Have Bilsteins in the front.
With that being said, what should I be looking for? Brand/size/etc.? Along with 200lb rear springs, what should I be looking for in the rear as far as sway bar and shocks as well? Thanks. |
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| drive-ability |
Aug 14 2007, 11:24 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
QUOTE(Chuck @ Aug 14 2007, 10:15 PM)  This is going to be a street car - no track days planned in its future. Plan to do a turbo subie transplant (~300hp) with flares. Have Bilsteins in the front. With that being said, what should I be looking for? Brand/size/etc.? Along with 200lb rear springs, what should I be looking for in the rear as far as sway bar and shocks as well? Thanks. Chuck, I'm no expert but 200 lb rear springs is a little much, maybe "way too stiff" for a street car. I am running 180s in my V-8, 930 trans car and they work well on the street. I'm sure there are Subie guys who can help ya.. John |
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| Chuck |
Aug 14 2007, 11:42 PM
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What it eventually will look like . . . . Group: Members Posts: 355 Joined: 29-March 07 From: Maple Grove, MN Member No.: 7,632 Region Association: Northstar Region |
That is good to know John. I know Renegade suggests the 200s when doing the subie switch. I wondered if that might be a bit much for a street car.
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| SirAndy |
Aug 15 2007, 12:34 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(drive-ability @ Aug 14 2007, 09:24 PM) 200 lb rear springs is a little much, maybe "way too stiff" for a street car. i dis-agree ... i'm running 250lbs rear springs on the street with yellow koni's and it doesn't feel too stiff at all. in fact, it feels rather smooth. as for the front bar, the carrera underbody bar works surprisingly well. i ran one for a few month while saving money for a adjustable through-body tarett bar. i'd run it for now. it's better than no sway bar for sure. btw. 180lbs rear springs were too soft for the weight of the big /6, not sure about the subie weight, but i'm guessing it's similar to a big six. get a decent size (22mm or bigger) front bar that is adjustable, maybe bigger torsion bars, a rear sway bar, 200+ lbs springs and most importantly, good adjustable shocks, like the koni's ... it makes a world of a difference ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy |
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| degreeoff |
Aug 15 2007, 01:46 PM
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I like big butts and I can not lie! Group: Members Posts: 1,622 Joined: 9-February 03 From: Booowieeee MD (near DC) Member No.: 275 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
QUOTE(Eric_Shea @ Aug 14 2007, 08:28 PM) Through body has better geometry and a much better selection of bars and arms to choose from. The 20mm Carrera bar will work fine if that's all you want or have but, I'm a through body fan. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) POST WHORE! |
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| drive-ability |
Aug 15 2007, 08:50 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,169 Joined: 18-March 05 From: Orange County, California Member No.: 3,782 |
QUOTE(SirAndy @ Aug 15 2007, 11:34 AM) QUOTE(drive-ability @ Aug 14 2007, 09:24 PM) 200 lb rear springs is a little much, maybe "way too stiff" for a street car. i dis-agree ... i'm running 250lbs rear springs on the street with yellow koni's and it doesn't feel too stiff at all. in fact, it feels rather smooth. as for the front bar, the carrera underbody bar works surprisingly well. i ran one for a few month while saving money for a adjustable through-body tarett bar. i'd run it for now. it's better than no sway bar for sure. btw. 180lbs rear springs were too soft for the weight of the big /6, not sure about the subie weight, but i'm guessing it's similar to a big six. get a decent size (22mm or bigger) front bar that is adjustable, maybe bigger torsion bars, a rear sway bar, 200+ lbs springs and most importantly, good adjustable shocks, like the koni's ... it makes a world of a difference ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) And Ya, a horse & buggy rides great on a smooth road but look out if the road isn't smooth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) When I was 20 I had a Datsun 510, dropped to the ground, now that I loved then, now no way!!! |
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| SirAndy |
Aug 15 2007, 08:59 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,636 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
QUOTE(drive-ability @ Aug 15 2007, 06:50 PM) Ya, a horse & buggy rides great on a smooth road but look out if the road isn't smooth (IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) When I was 20 I had a Datsun 510, dropped to the ground, now that I loved then, now no way!!! sure, bay area and smooth roads is like hell and feezing over. never gonna happen. so, you base your recommendation on a car that is nothing like the 914, when you were 20 and didn't know any better, dropped to the ground (read: NO shock travel) ... i'll give you a ride in my car on those oh so "smooth" CA roads and you can judge for yourself ... and unlike when you were 20, it'll be in a 914. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/poke.gif) Andy |
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| Eric_Shea |
Aug 15 2007, 10:04 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
John,
Your neighborhood Association called... they said they'll be installing speed bumps just for you! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/w00t.gif) |
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| Crazyhippy |
Aug 15 2007, 10:09 PM
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Insert witty comment here... Group: Members Posts: 1,659 Joined: 28-July 05 From: Home of the Coyotes, AZ Member No.: 4,493 Region Association: None |
The Underbody bar works GREAT!
The downside is it's lack of adjustability. I'm running 140LB rear springs on my subbie, and they are WAY to soft. BJH |
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| Johny Blackstain |
Aug 15 2007, 10:30 PM
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Walnut Elite Stratocaster player Group: Members Posts: 3,434 Joined: 5-December 06 From: The Shenandoah River Member No.: 7,318 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region 
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My 2.7 is sporting a 22mm thru the body up front, 16mm & 200lb springs in the back. Green Bilsteins up front & red Konis in the back. I did not build it, but I like it.
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