A lot of work went into this Por-Chev... Options

[Phoenix-MN]

Went to all the trouble to do all this work but didn't paint the underside of the car while there?
Randy

You're kidding right (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif)

Who the F paints the underside of the car if you expect to drive it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

If your paying attention to details (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)
see
http://www.phoenixhobbies.com/html/paint.html

[Grelber]

The car is on consignment with the shop that is selling it. The guys at the shop know almost nothing about the car. (Engine, trans, etc.)

It's also for sale locally for $19,000.

[BMXerror]

Even if you're not a V8 person, you gotta love this car.

Ummm.... no I don't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I agree that a lot of work went into this car, and that it's unique, but I don't really care for the style of it(Just my opinion). I also don't think you can tell that it's been technically thought out and well engineered because there's a lot of well-done bodywork and some expensive bolt on parts. I mean, the suspension seems to be a good choice, but he doesn't even mention it in the ad. What does that tell you? I'm not saying it necessarily wasn't well engineered, but I don't think you can tell without looking it over in person or, even better, working on it. More importantly, it seems unfair to accuse people of doing a "half-assed" conversion because they don't have the money to make it look as flashy as this one. It doesn't mean their fabrication and design of any custom parts is any lower quality. My $.02. Direct your irate comments this way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
Mark D.

[aircooledboy]

Ummm.... no I don't. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) I agree that a lot of work went into this car, and that it's unique, but I don't really care for the style of it(Just my opinion). I also don't think you can tell that it's been technically thought out and well engineered because there's a lot of well-done bodywork and some expensive bolt on parts.

With all due respect bud, if that's what you see, you either don't know what you are looking at, or are not looking very carefully. Very few of the things that have gotten attention are not custom "one of a kind" pieces. I have spent a lot of time gathering ideas from other people's conversions, and there a many fabrications on this car that I have never seen anywhere else. The body is nice, but that isn't what caught my eye.

I mean, the suspension seems to be a good choice, but he doesn't even mention it in the ad. What does that tell you?

It tells me you haven't read the thread or looked at the ad very carefully. The ad is from a car dealer, and a post above says the car is being sold by a broker on consignment.

More importantly, it seems unfair to accuse people of doing a "half-assed" conversion because they don't have the money to make it look as flashy as this one. It doesn't mean their fabrication and design of any custom parts is any lower quality. My $.02. Direct your irate comments this way. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ar15.gif)
Mark D.

If anybody wrote that above, I missed it. I saw the paint on THIS car called half ass, but not anybody's conversion. I know what impresses me is that I see several of the areas I would like to improve on my car (which I consider to be an excellent example of a properly done conversion BTW) to have been addressed on this conversion in logical and custom ways.

[alpha434]

I'd like to point out the heat shielding. Around the mufflers and around the copper tubing.

VERY nice touch. Attention to detail. Maybe the guy was a helicopter mechanic.

And to justify the copper tubing... The idea was probly to displace as much heat as possible before getting to the radiator and before getting to the engine. Not being as strong might have been an oversight. But I doubt the guy would've "lost" his presence of mind driving over a big speed bump. Not if the rest of his car indicates what he's like.

[Brian Mifsud]

I also don't think you can tell that it's been technically thought out and well engineered because there's a lot of well-done bodywork and some expensive bolt on parts.

Yes, you CAN see that things were well thought out. Here are some examples:

1) Rear Oil Cooler Placement, set up on rear bumper in high drag/vacuum part of slipstream for good airflow

2) Careful cable and tubing routing all over the car (I've already said my bit about the cooling lines under the car.. not a big risk). Wire and cables are well insulated and secured.

3) Great Sheetmetal work: all holes/apertures cut into the body are well finished off so no sharp edges to cut cables/wire/hands etc.

4) Weak parts of car reinforced.

5) Heatshields installed where needed.

6) Provision for engine room cooling.

Each of those items indicate to me that this guy understands cars, and has an eye for detail. He also has enough experience to ANTICIPATE problems, and thus, put the solution in place ahead of time.

I don't see many "fancy" bolt-ons, mostly handmade one-off solutions, but they look rugged and sensible. It also looks like you can get access to the service items you need to.

Nice Car

[SirAndy]

[Who the F paints the underside of the car if you expect to drive it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/huh.gif)

If your paying attention to details (IMG:style_emoticons/default/shades.gif)

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) attention to detail (or the lack of) speaks volumes about the quality of the work done.


sorry guys, but that car doesn't do a thing for me ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/icon8.gif) Andy

[zymurgist]

I'd like to point out the heat shielding. Around the mufflers and around the copper tubing.

VERY nice touch. Attention to detail. Maybe the guy was a helicopter mechanic.

Heat in the cockpit... hmmm, maybe the guy owns a Corvette.

[jaminM3]

I don't understand this one...

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Lemme see if I can explain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

A guy took a 914, and he put a V8 in it to make it really fast. Rather than just cram in a poorly planned conversion, he appears to have thought out every last detail right down to appropriate suspension and brake modification, chasis reinforcements and a modified shift linkage. He carried out the conversion in about as bullet-proof and badass of a fashion as he possibly could, apparently leaving no potential problem unaddressed. He customized a few things along the way to his taste, maybe a few over the top, ultimately resulting in a car that any objective car guy would have to respect as being amazingly well executed from an engineering and mechanical point of view. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

Yeah, those copper lines are great (IMG:style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif)

And the hood!! Are you kidding? this isn't a Chevelle or Camaro....

Everything else looks OK I guess, I think it is just a little over the top (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[jasons]

Heat in the cockpit... hmmm, maybe the guy owns a Corvette.

LOL, I can relate to that!

[sww914]

It looks like a ski boat from the 80's.

[914-8]

One of the things I like about V8 conversions is that everyone that does one has a different interpretation of what a V8 914 should look like. For example, some like to do things that highlight that the car is watercooled (like this silver one), others like to disguise it.

And there lots of different ideas of how to handle the various re-engineering that is necessary. You rarely see 2 V8 cars that are even remotely alike.

This silver one looks like it has had some nice work done on it. But definitely not my cup of tea. Copper plumbing is nice in a house, but just wrong on a car. And styling is subjective and opinion, but almost none of the choices on that car is one that I would have made (hood, multiple oversized openings in the bumper, unnecessary venting of the engine lid, the big fender vents which are useless in an watercooled car, the fake 911 door panels, etc. But the car was his vision of how a V8 should look, not mine!

Will be interesting to see where it ends up.

[jasons]

One of the things I like about V8 conversions is that everyone that does one has a different interpretation of what a V8 914 should look like.

I'm not really a Chalon lover, but... I thought this was a really nice V8 car that sold last week.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAP...bayphotohosting

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[degreeoff]

I don't understand this one...

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Lemme see if I can explain. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/idea.gif)

A guy took a 914, and he put a V8 in it to make it really fast. Rather than just cram in a poorly planned conversion, he appears to have thought out every last detail right down to appropriate suspension and brake modification, chasis reinforcements and a modified shift linkage. He carried out the conversion in about as bullet-proof and badass of a fashion as he possibly could, apparently leaving no potential problem unaddressed. He customized a few things along the way to his taste, maybe a few over the top, ultimately resulting in a car that any objective car guy would have to respect as being amazingly well executed from an engineering and mechanical point of view. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

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[Pat Garvey]

I will be the first to admit that I know NOTHING about V8 conversions, but am always willing to be educated.

This particular "car" doesn't send off any rockets for me, though it is interesting & apparently well thought out.

But, how much has been invested in this car? Strikes me to be a LOT. So, why do something like this if you can't possibly expect to recoup even half your cost? And, your resale market is unbelievable restrictive (I guess?).

So....why not keep the thing Porsche? You want more poop? Put just about anything Porsche in it (my preference would be a 3.0 - simple & enough hp for me), even a 3.6. Do it yourself & do it right, and you'll still have a market for the 914 when you want to sell. No, you won't recap your costs, but it's a car - not a house.

Or, am I being naive here?
Pat

[dakotaewing]

I will be the first to admit that I know NOTHING about V8 conversions, but am always willing to be educated.

This particular "car" doesn't send off any rockets for me, though it is interesting & apparently well thought out.

But, how much has been invested in this car? Strikes me to be a LOT. So, why do something like this if you can't possibly expect to recoup even half your cost? And, your resale market is unbelievable restrictive (I guess?).

So....why not keep the thing Porsche? You want more poop? Put just about anything Porsche in it (my preference would be a 3.0 - simple & enough hp for me), even a 3.6. Do it yourself & do it right, and you'll still have a market for the 914 when you want to sell. No, you won't recap your costs, but it's a car - not a house.

Or, am I being naive here?
Pat

Pat -

I do not mean to start anything here... So please don't take it that way -
But, it seems obvious to me you have never driven a 400HP 914 that was well sorted out - If you had, then you would have a much better understanding of what V8 cars are all about -
If you ever have the opportunity, don't pass it up -

Best -

Thom

[SirAndy]

I do not mean to start anything here... So please don't take it that way -
But, it seems obvious to me you have never driven a 400HP 914 that was well sorted out - If you had, then you would have a much better understanding of what V8 cars are all about -
If you ever have the opportunity, don't pass it up

i have. more than once. with even more than 400 HP. and i still sorta agree with pat.

but that's besides the point. you can stick as many V8's in your 914 as you like. fine with me.

still doesn't make me like that car much ...
(IMG:style_emoticons/default/popcorn[1].gif) Andy

[Luke]

Don't think he has to worry about crushing the copper ... it sits like a Cayenne ...

[boxstr]

Sweet front hood prop..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

[andys]

Can anyone identify the seats in that car?
Thanks,
Andys