Home  |  Forums  |  914 Info  |  Blogs
 
914World.com - The fastest growing online 914 community!
 
Porsche, and the Porsche crest are registered trademarks of Dr. Ing. h.c. F. Porsche AG. This site is not affiliated with Porsche in any way.
Its only purpose is to provide an online forum for car enthusiasts. All other trademarks are property of their respective owners.
 

Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

> All the cool kids are doing it..., Low budget progress thread (Slow Race prep.)
BMXerror
post Sep 17 2007, 09:42 PM
Post #1


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Well, with all the work that I'm doing to my car lately, I might as well start my own progress thread.
Backstory
I bought 4702912742 from my pops about a year and a half ago for $600 dollars, but it wasn't a steal. It had been sitting for about five years and needed a lot of work. He A couple years later he had been looking for a teener for a little while and picked this one up cheap at a dealership in Pomona Ca. He drove it for a while, but it had tons of problems, and soon he decided to sell it. However, the person who test drove it blew first gear, and out to the back yard it was sent.
Fast forward five years to when I was financially ready to get a car to start racing. Long story short, after deciding that I wanted the 914 instead of an older Miata, I told him I was interested. He said that if I bought him a set of mufflers for his bike, we'd call it even.
After that I spent about another 4K just getting it drivable. I replace all four rotors, rebuilt all four calipers, replace the brake lines with braided steel, replaced the hard lines that I broke, replaced the master cylinder, resealed the motor (after my socket and extension locked the motor up), bought two trannies for it (the first one was no good), put a new clutch and pilot bearing in it, put new rubber on the ground (Khumos), fixed and lubed all kinds of latches and hinges to be able to get into all the various compartments, replaced most of the vacuum lines and fuel lines.... the list goes on.
These were all just stock replacements to get it running well. I further had to fight with the injection system for a few months until I figured out that I had it hooked up wrong. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) Of course, this is the very abbreviated version of the story. As anyone with one of these things knows, the words it takes to describe what parts you changed don't even come close to showing the blood, sweat, and yes, sometimes tears that you put into your work. But anyways, it is running decent now (the motor is still a little tired) so it's time to do some improvements. After all, racing is what I bought the thing for. So I'll try to bring anyone who cares up to date on some of the things I've been working on.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
6 Pages V « < 3 4 5 6 >  
Reply to this topicStart new topic
Replies(80 - 99)
BMXerror
post Mar 29 2009, 10:28 PM
Post #81


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Well, no pictures on this post because it's nothing really creative. More of an 'open your wallet real wide and bolt the dollars to your car' kinda things. I got my Koni yellows for the rear, and was finally able to mount my coilover kit that I bought last JULY!
Previously I had KYB rears that were on the car when I got it, and they were rather worn out. Also, I think they were close to stock ride height, because the car was kinda 'stinkbug' before. If you were driving on a strait road and gave the wheel a wiggle, it would wag it's tail at you for a little bit after you straitened the wheel out. It took time for it to settle out. I'm pretty sure this was mostly a high roll center problem. When I added the front swaybar, it drastically improved the overall handling of the car by eliminating body roll, but it made the thing very tail happy even with the sways at their softest setting. I figured this would be the case, as I built the swaybar with the rear coilovers and 200 lb springs in mind. I just couldn't afford to do both at once.
So anyways, my tax return came just in time for Paragon Products to have a 15% off sale on all Koni products ('till July, if anybody is interested). It was a match made in heaven! So I ordered those, as well as a pistol type pyrometer last week, and left work early to mount the shocks on Friday. I lowered the rear by 5/8" from where it was before, giving me about 5-3/8" at the rear doughnuts. Lowering the roll center did a LOT! It actually sits like a Porsche now, instead of a mid '60s hot rod! I set the shocks right in the middle of their dampening adjustment as a place to work from, but it really ended up being about perfect! I also stiffened my swaybar a full two inches on the arm to balance it out.
I was acting as pit crew for an overheating Lister at the speedway yesterday, so I didn't get to really test the 914 till today, and BOY what a difference. The front end is right where you point it, and the back end stays in the back! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) I brought out my new temp gun and sorted out tire pressures in a way I've never done before. I found a tad bit of understeer in the canyons which was easily alleviated with a 1/4" swaybar adjustment on the side of the road, and now it seems just right. Of course, I won't know for sure until I can really cut loose on an autocross course, but I think today's little shakedown session got me pretty close to dialed in! I'm very happy that the front and rear projects came together as well as they did. This was something I planned about a year and a half ago, and the results are awesome!
Incidentally, you get really funny looks from people when you stop at a turn out and break out the pyrometer, a pressure gauge and a clipboard and do a full write-up on the side of the road! haha... And the cop didn't even want to ask what I was doing! I wish I had a picture of the look on her face when she walked up to my window and saw the aluminum dash, no passenger seat, and me tightening my 5-points! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/WTF.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/lol-2.gif) Priceless! I'm gettin' close to ready for May 3rd! Have a (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer3.gif) !
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Oct 17 2009, 06:21 PM
Post #82


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Well, since the rear suspension is well sorted now, I decided to get into the front. I happened across the pictured upper strut mounts, and decided that it was a good time to take out the stock mounts and reverse engineer them (I'm designing adjustable mounts). However in the process of trying to get the rusty struts out of the rusty mounts, I mushroomed the thread on the right side with my BFH. So the new mounts got new Koni yellows to match the rear. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)
In addition to all that, I got new tires all the way around as the Kumhos that I was running were rather hard and blistered. Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star (Inhale) Specs, all the way around. So yesterday, I figured it'd be a good time to drop the ride height, equalize the camber, and do a four wheel alignment. The took about 8 hours, considering I've never done it before, and the frame is a bit tweaked, and EVERYTHING was out of adjustment. But the results look promising. 2 degrees negative camber in the rear, 1.5 in the front. I'm trying to put a few gentle miles on the tires before really pushing them, but I'm autocrossing next weekend, so we'll see how it works.
The only thing unusual about this setup is the custom hardware that I had to machine to work with the new mounts. These 'retainers' are basically a 22mm nut no threads and a key cut in them. I tried making them out of aluminum, but that didn't work so well. So I went back and redesigned them to give them a little more meat, and made them out of steel.
New mounts.


Attached thumbnail(s)
Attached Image
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Oct 17 2009, 06:23 PM
Post #83


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



First retainer.
Attached Image
Second retainer.
Attached Image
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Oct 17 2009, 06:26 PM
Post #84


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



This was my original plan for hardware. I only ended up using about half of that.
Attached Image
Mounted and adjusted. You can see how far over and back it's adjusted, but the other side is pretty much centered for the same amount of camber. A little frame tweaking, me thinks. Note the adjustment key on top of the shock. Please ignore the dirty ass sheet metal with 4 different paint jobs on it.
Attached Image
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Jan 26 2011, 11:07 PM
Post #85


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



*If you don't want to read my lame story, skip the next 4 paragraphs*

Good lord! I can't believe it's been a year and a half since I posted any progress... haven't really made much, is why. Where to start?.... Well, I started autocrossing with SCCA in may of '09 and quickly learned how slow my car and myself really are amidst a competitive group. As discouraged as I was, I realized that that's where I needed to be to improve my skills, both on the driving and preparation side. However, I ended up focusing a lot of my money and efforts into track time, and little got done with the car.
About May of 2010, the D-jet system really started getting bad. It was never really great with the modified engine, but the system started deteriorating rapidly to where it barely wanted to run. I decided to park it before it cost me an engine. I quickly realized I was faced with two options. Either spend to rebuild the ignition and injection systems and live with D-jet for even longer, or bite the bullet and go to SDS as I've wanted to do for years. Well, there was no cash for that. I was trying to buy a house, and my commuter car blew an engine shortly thereafter.
However, in August I was able to find a brand new SDS EM4-4F system (exactly what I wanted) on eBay for cheap. It was a guy in Australia who bought it for a project that never got that far. With shipping back to the US I paid $1140. Plus I had to ship it to SDS and have some rework done for some of the options I wanted, as well as a V17 chip upgrade. That was another $388. All in all, I figure I saved about $500 on a fully loaded system.
Of course, as life goes, I got my house the very next month, and for a while it was very hard to find time and money to put into the install. However, I was try to spend one extra night a week in the machine shop building the brackets and stuff I need for the sensors and injectors. So anyways, in the past 4 or so months, this is what I've come up with.

The first custom part I machined is a mount for the TPS. Luckily, the 'D' pattern on the TPS is the same as the stock shaft. The shaft did need to be cut shorter, which took me about two minutes with an angle grinder and a cutoff wheel. The hard part was that the TPS plug is turned 90 degrees from the stock location towards the back of the engine. With the bell housing there, it gets a little tight to plug the loom in. So careful measurement had to be made to make sure everything would fit.
What I came up with was a two piece design that consisted of a machined block that mates to the TPS, and a sheet metal 't' that flips it 90 degrees and mounts the assembly to the stock TB.

Attached Image
TPS brackets. You can see that the sheet metal part was all done by hand. It's functional.
Attached Image
Assembled TPS mount alongside new TPS. You SDS guys will be familiar with that part.
Attached Image
Installed.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Jan 26 2011, 11:08 PM
Post #86


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



One more.
Attached Image
Just enough clearance between that screw and the plug that goes below it.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Jan 26 2011, 11:15 PM
Post #87


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Since I'm going to crank fired ignition, another thing I had to make was a blockoff plug for the distributor bore. This was just time spent in the machine shop. I found the o-rings at McMaster Carr. I got a compound of rubber that's supposedly rated up to 400 degrees fahrenheit and oil resistant.

Attached Image
Not much to say about this part except if I do another I'm gonna leave more material around the bolt hole if I have to do another. That was a reverse engineering mistake. I.E. I don't know how to measure a stud. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/slap.gif)
Attached Image
Installed. Don't worry. The engine will get cleaned up before I put it back in. The fit in the bore is almost orgasmic, BTW. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Jan 26 2011, 11:28 PM
Post #88


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Originally, when I decided that I wanted to go to SDS, I was just planning on using the stock D-jet injectors. However, since I bought a system from a private party, he had ordered injectors with it. He bought the Ford style 440cc 'Green Top' injectors, like so.
Attached Image
Even though it's overkill for the engine that's in the car right now, I decided to go ahead and install these. Two main reasons: I didn't want to change the injector plugs on the loom, and then have to change them back when I had enough engine that required bigger injectors. These are a standard size, and I can get them in many different flow rates. Also, they're new, and it's always best to use good components, even though there was no known problems with the old injectors.
The way I decided to accomplish this is to bore and sleeve the manifolds to accept the new injectors, use the existing clamp, and machine port adapters for the backside (still in process).
Attached Image
Manifold bored and counterbored to accept the sleeves. The fixturing on this part was a little interesting because the injectors rest at a 80 degree angle from the gasket face. Bore tolerance was .0005 for the press fit.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Jan 26 2011, 11:34 PM
Post #89


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Sleeves. The small end was held to +/-.0001" for the press fit. The bore on the larger side was held +/- .002 for the o-ring to seal.
Attached Image
Oh yeah. They were machined from some 316 that I had lying around.
Attached Image
Sleeves pressed in. The press fit was perfect. Not too tight. Not too loose.
Attached Image
Port side.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Jan 26 2011, 11:39 PM
Post #90


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Attached Image
Injectors installed. Feels good to start putting stuff together.
Attached Image
It took some careful calculation to get the depth of the injector approximately as the stock ones were. I think I did okay.
That's it for tonight. There is more done that I still need to get pictures of. I'm hoping to be back on the road in a month or so. Then the fun part begins... Mapping! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/piratenanner.gif)
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yeahmag
post Jan 27 2011, 12:40 AM
Post #91


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,422
Joined: 18-April 05
From: Pasadena, CA
Member No.: 3,946
Region Association: Southern California



Mark,

I'd love to see a parts list for your monoball top hats. I have a set of worn out ones that I'd like to refurb courtesy of McMaster-Carr or the like... Sure would save me some R&D time.

The first PCA event of the year is 2/12 at El Toro. Would be good to have another 914 out there!
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Jan 27 2011, 01:39 PM
Post #92


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



I'm actually supposed to be running with SCCA at Cal Speedway that weekend, but I doubt I'll have the 914 together by then. The plan right now is to bring out my new commuter car ('04 Cooper S) to run in SK2 instead. But I would definitely love to run with you guys sometime. In the summer we're always running just across from you on the next runway. I'll put it on my 'to-do' list for this year, to run at least one PCA event. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)
I didn't make the hats OR rebuild them, so I'm not sure I'll have what you need. I mostly just machined the hardware to adapt them to the car. However, I did do some research here and there for the adjustable ones that I never built. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/confused24.gif) PM me a tell me exactly what info you're looking for and I'll dig around and see if I have it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yeahmag
post Jan 27 2011, 05:05 PM
Post #93


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,422
Joined: 18-April 05
From: Pasadena, CA
Member No.: 3,946
Region Association: Southern California



I ran, not walked away from SCCA. I got tired of the constant BS and lack of runs. For $65 at PCA I get:

3 run groups of 4 run (Total of 12 runs)
Larger, well designed courses
Free Starbucks Coffee and Donuts
Great atmosphere and laid back people
Sometimes a catered lunch

Come to the dark side...
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
J P Stein
post Jan 27 2011, 06:47 PM
Post #94


Irrelevant old fart
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 8,797
Joined: 30-December 02
From: Vancouver, WA
Member No.: 45
Region Association: None



QUOTE(yeahmag @ Jan 27 2011, 03:05 PM) *

I ran, not walked away from SCCA. I got tired of the constant BS and lack of runs. For $65 at PCA I get:

3 run groups of 4 run (Total of 12 runs)
Larger, well designed courses
Free Starbucks Coffee and Donuts
Great atmosphere and laid back people
Sometimes a catered lunch

Come to the dark side...



You forgot, less competition.........
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
yeahmag
post Jan 27 2011, 06:49 PM
Post #95


Advanced Member
****

Group: Members
Posts: 2,422
Joined: 18-April 05
From: Pasadena, CA
Member No.: 3,946
Region Association: Southern California



Depends on what class you are in, but for a 914 - absolutely. But seriously, its the same price for 1/2 the runs and 2X the attitude in SCCA. All the "nice" SCCA guys come over to PCA to practice for events and nationals.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Feb 6 2011, 11:54 AM
Post #96


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Quick update here. I'm not sure if I mentioned that I'm doing a battery relocation while I'm at it. So I decided that instead of running power cables through the tunnel to power all the switched features, I'd run a switched line to a master relay that turns those functions on, and pull power off the starter. (I'll get some pics of the battery work that I've done later today)
Anyways, there are some switched circuits and some non-switched circuits that all need to be fused, so I decided to do a completely separate relay board in the engine compartment.
Attached Image
This is what a wiring diagram looks like as drawn by someone who doesn't know how to draw wiring diagrams. I drew this up at work while my machine was running on Friday. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) Some of the capacities on the fuses are subject to change. I need to do some more research on that.
Attached Image
I fabbed this up in about an hour and a half yesterday, and I'm quite pleased with how it came out. Yes, the labels are upside down, but I did it that way because my head will be upside down in the engine compartment when I'm looking at them.
Attached Image
Stayed up until late last night wiring this up. This is all the wiring I can do without installing it in the car. I need to add the main power from the fuse to the master relay (60A), all the control wires to the ECU, all the grounds, and a couple intermediate control wires.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Feb 6 2011, 02:00 PM
Post #97


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



A couple more things that I did a while ago. When planning the SDS install, I decided that now would be a good time to move the battery up front. I just used a $10 plastic battery tray and attached it with rivet-in T-nuts through the trunk floor. That way you don't have to hold a nut on the underside of the floor while screwing a bolt in the top. It also makes a flush mount on the bottom side. The battery clamp was done the same way. I just used M8 X 170mm bolts (which were a bit too long) from McMaster Carr and screwed those into T-nuts in the floor.
Attached Image
Installed.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Feb 6 2011, 02:08 PM
Post #98


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



The cables were just purchased from O'Reilly. I don't remember if they're 4 or 6 gauge, but I had to run the hot lead through the tunnel all the way to the starter. The ground needed to go to the battery switch at it's new location on the left front fender.
Attached Image
Note the 30A inline fuse on the hot lead. Grommets are epoxied in anywhere the lines pass through a firewall.
Attached Image
Battery switch's new spot. This is actually the old radio antenna hole. I'm going to make a plate to cover the uncleanliness sometime and paint it bright orange so that it's easy for course works to spot. This mod is actually in response to an SCCA GT-3 rule that requires a main battery shutoff on the outside of the car that is accessible with the car either rightside up or upside down. It's also pretty convenient, because you can just drop the key in just before getting in the car.
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
BMXerror
post Feb 6 2011, 02:19 PM
Post #99


Senior Member
***

Group: Members
Posts: 1,705
Joined: 8-April 06
From: Hesperia Ca
Member No.: 5,842



Attached Image
Wiring in the inner fender to the battery switch. It's pretty tight in there and tough to photograph. Note the ground on the backside of the fender well. This is also bolted to a rivet-in T-nut. I've been doing that a lot more lately to make the thing easier for only one person to work on. I live alone, and I can't just go grab an extra set of hands. Also, even if I did have an extra set of hands, you don't want to know where the other end of that bolt pokes through. It'd be a bitch to hold a nut on it.
Attached Image
This is what I did with the space left by the stock battery tray. This is the -4F coil pack. Pretty self explanatory. I'm also going to put that new relay board and a ground point in that area.
As a side point, I'm really longing to tear the thing down completely and repaint it recently. I'm feeling like an abusive parent letting the paint look so bad. Upside: I may have a ride with another team for this whole year, so I should be able to afford the time to tackle such a job. Downside: pulling my own weight on that team will take away from the financial resources that I can put towards development of the 914. If I'm going to repaint it, I'm going to do a cage and go to 5-lug and flares while I'm at it. That all costs pretty substantial money. To be continued...
Mark D.
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post
messix
post Feb 6 2011, 04:04 PM
Post #100


AKA "CLUTCH KILLER"!
*****

Group: Members
Posts: 6,995
Joined: 14-April 05
From: between shit kickers and pinky lifters/ puget sound wa.north of Seattle south of Canada
Member No.: 3,931
Region Association: Pacific Northwest



your master off switch needs to cut all the power on the + of the cars electrical system not the ground to the batt.

just cutting the ground to the batt will not shut off the electrical system and shut down the car,

run the alternator wire to the batt, then run main batt wire to switch, then on the other side of switch run to the car electrical system.

cutting the ground will still allow the car to run off the alternator and the spike from the loss load from the batt will surge you electronics all the while the car will still be running.

when i was tech inspecting at the local stock car track i shut a cars main power off and the car stayed running but the tach stopped, the driver accused me of "blowing up" his tach! i explained to him that i did not impropely wire his emergency shut off and that his car has failed tech inspection becaused it failed to shut off the engine from the emergency off. he stomped off to complain to the track steweard.... i heard laughing from that direction.

or this is better http://www.ssdiv.com/master.html
User is offlineProfile CardPM
Go to the top of the page
+Quote Post

6 Pages V « < 3 4 5 6 >
Reply to this topicStart new topic
1 User(s) are reading this topic (1 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 



- Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 23rd May 2024 - 07:46 AM