what's with all the 914-6's lately?, here's another fresh one on ebay... Options

[Mueller]

I thought about the '72 ingnition being "different" but yes, the VIN would be a giveaway unless there is something else "different" (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[GWN7]

Did they make any 6's with the 472 serial #? The reason I ask is I found a 72 on my last road trip that the owners son said it was a 6. They had the block, but no carbs for it, which was out of the car at the time I saw it. But what caused me to ask about this car was it had a upside down U bracket welded on the firewall and this bracket looked like it was factory instaled. None of my cars have this bracket and I wondered if this was a 6 front mount? Is there a factory list that shows they didn't use the 472 cars for 6's?

[Dave_Darling]

There were a bare handful of (200?) 1972 914-6es. They had VINs starting with "914229".

For all 914s (except possibly the prototypes) the chassis was put together at Karmann in Osnabrück. The four-cylinder cars were finished there, while the Sixes were shipped off to Stuttgart to be finished.

It is unlikely that the six-cylinder engine mount was welded into a chassis in Stuttgart, and then the chassis was shipped back to Osnabrück--but it is possible... It is also possible that someone did a really clean install of an upside-down-U-shaped piece of metal in a regular 1972 914.

--DD

[GWN7]

Dave,

I have never seen a 6. Except in pictures on this and Pelicans board ( I know, I have lived a sheltered life)and never seen a picture of the front bracket/motor mount on either board.

But judging the age of the original paint that was on the car (in that area), it looked like a factory job. I didn't take a picture of the bracket, but I did note the serial #

If you or anyone else could post a pic of the proper bracket, I could tell if it is what I saw.

I have the phone number of the owner and will call him and ask what he knows about it.

What is possible to me is that as 72 was the last year that they made the 6's, that they ran out of bodies made for the 6's after they had shut down the production line and took some 4's bodies to fill orders they had on hand for the 6? Is there any way to find this out?

[GWN7]

I called the owner of the car tonight and got the skinny on it.

It is a true 6 and has the 914043 serial number. I must have mixed up the serial numbers on the two cars I looked at while at his place.

Two pieces of good news are:

1) now I know what a 6 front engine bracket looks like (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

2) the car is not only a 6, it is a GT car

[echocanyons]

it is a GT car

what car?

[GWN7]

The car I saw on my last road trip, last month. It turns out the car is a 914-6 GT It is parked in a guys yard and would need a lot of work. He told me tonight that he has the original registration showing it is a GT car.

[vortrex]

he as a $100k car sitting in his yard doing nothing?

[GWN7]

Yes

He dosen't want where it is or who he is put out there.

He's not sure what he is going to do with it and until he does, I will respect his wishes. The same, I'm sure you would do if asked by someone.

I told him if he wants some help with finding parts, ect. to join us on this board.

He has researched the car and has the documentation on it. He told me a lot more about it tonight and it was quite interesting. That's all I will say.

[vortrex]

cool info, I don't think you have to worry about any of us stealing it off his property. LOL.

wow, only 6 GT cars made in '72 total is seems, rare car!!!


edit:

hmmm, you said it's a '72 but the VIN is from a '70?

[GWN7]

It's a 70. I mixed up the serial numbers from the 2 cars I looked at when at his place. I took pictures of the serial numbers when there and one didn't turn out, but the way I thought they were listed on my camera, I thought the #472 picture was on the car with the 6 bracket.

[QUIt is a true 6 and has the 914043 serial number. I must have mixed up the serial numbers on the two cars I looked at while at his place.
OTE]

I also looked at http://www.stazak.com/914/gt/ tonight.

The car isn't listed there, but some of the info on that site comfirms what he told me tonight.

I'm not being vague because I want it for myself. I can't afford it (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) And this isn't another "I've got a 914 limo" thread (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[vortrex]

I don't think anyone on here can afford it! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) it's always fun hearing stories about lost cars like this, hopefully the code of silence can be broken at some point. wonder how complete the stazak GT VIN list is?

[GWN7]

I don't think the list is very compleat. It lists 63 cars. 7 of which are dealer built cars.

There were 50 factory Gt's built and 400 dealer kits made.

So out of 450 possible cars.....there are 4 factory factory built cars unaccounted for and 393 possible dealer built ones unaccounted for.

Not that all the kits were instaled. Parts of these kits were probably sold as addons or not compleatly put on cars. Didn't Brad find parts from one not long ago? In that lost 914 parts warehouse? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

[SirAndy]

Didn't Brad find parts from one not long ago? In that lost 914 parts warehouse? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

he found a complete (less engine) m471 :-)
plus a bunch of original GT parts, like the 100 Liter gas tank ...

(IMG:style_emoticons/default/aktion035.gif)

[Brad Roberts]

The list that most people go by is the Kerry Morse list. The 1970 sounds correct.

Does he plan to restore it or sell it ??

I know of another one that is stripped but has the correct VIN and history to be a GT.

I really need to get my mind out of the gutter.


B

[GWN7]

I think he would like to fix it, but the reality is I don't think he could afford it. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sad.gif)

[vortrex]

please tell him to sell it to someone who knows what to do with it. it'd be a shame to see it turned into a chevy conversion. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)