Trailing arm disassembly, Take it down without the BFH! |
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Trailing arm disassembly, Take it down without the BFH! |
Wilhelm |
Nov 14 2007, 05:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
I always hate beating on crap till it comes apart, though I've certainly been guilty of this too many times to count. So... I made a little press plate to make this a less violent procedure and the hub and bearing came out smoothly. The bearing came out nicely and I can't detect any roughness in it opon rotation as opposed to the uniform destruction of them I acheived with beating them out with a BFH.
This is the press plate cut out of 3/4" 6X8 flat plate in under 30 minutes on an old fasion mill, though you could do this with a torch and grinder, a plasma or a holesaw or jigsaw with some patience. In retrospect 1/2" plate would have been more than adequate, but this is what I had. By placing 2 of the 4 flats of the bearing housing into the press plate, the hub is held perpendicular to the press and the hub is free to drop out. On top I used a socket as an extension of the press to push the hub though the bearing. Bonus..... did not destroy my extension by beating on it with the BFH. Finally the bearing retainer plate is removed and the bearing is pressed out with an even bigger socket. |
URY914 |
Nov 14 2007, 07:14 PM
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I built the lightest 914 in the history of mankind. Group: Members Posts: 120,662 Joined: 3-February 03 From: Jacksonville, FL Member No.: 222 Region Association: None |
Wow, that is sweet. Nice work.
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woobn8r |
Nov 15 2007, 09:15 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 607 Joined: 7-January 07 From: Newmarket, Ontario, Canada Member No.: 7,435 Region Association: None |
Gud WERK!...no good deed goes unpunished so....
How'd ya like to make some of dem fur sale to US (the 914 faithful)... I think if we shared yours the wait list would go forever.... |
bbrown |
Nov 15 2007, 10:30 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 92 Joined: 23-December 04 From: ohio Member No.: 3,330 |
Not made in China!
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Wilhelm |
Mar 1 2008, 08:43 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
Now that the weather has warmed up and I can stand to be out in my ice cold shop and I'm over the flu I finally decided to make a better rear flange and bearing puller. This one can be used on the car or in a press. I've taken about 5 pairs of trailing arms apart with this and didn't have to beat on anything with the BFH. Nothing is high tech although access to a lathe can make the punch shaft fit better. The body of the jig is 2 pieces of .5" by 4" by 8" plate, one of which I milled out (thought could use a jig saw and grinder) a recess to mate with the flats just under the bearing retainer.
The drawing The parts The jig attached to the trailing arm Give me a minute and I'll post the rest of the pics. |
Wilhelm |
Mar 1 2008, 08:46 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
More puller stuff
The puller shaft is pushed in through back of flange and bolt threaded into end of it. Nut is tightened down and pulls out shaft and flange. |
Wilhelm |
Mar 1 2008, 08:49 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
After flange is out, the bearing retainer plate is removed, the shaft is reversed and the big end will pull out the bearing. |
Wilhelm |
Mar 1 2008, 08:52 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
Don't tell the wife I did this on her kitchen floor, she will give me a dirty look..... Most of the time this rig pulls the bearing out in a non-destructive manner. In this case, the inner bearing race was rusted to the flange and pulled the bearing apart. The biggest advantage this puller has over my first generation puller (at beginning of this thread) is that it can be used while on the vehicle and it indexes with the hub and thus isn't wobbly and thus much easier to use.
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davep |
Mar 2 2008, 08:08 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,143 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
Very nice! Longer pins required if you have a 914/6 hub with studs.
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Wilhelm |
Mar 2 2008, 08:40 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
Very nice! Longer pins required if you have a 914/6 hub with studs. A 914/6 hub is the same length, isn't it?, though a 911 hub would be only 5mm longer and would still work with this. With pressed or welded in studs you have a good point about needing more space between the plates. I came up with these dimension as everything I was pulling apart had no studs and also the longest fully threaded 5/8 NF bolt I could find (mcmaster.com) for the puller bolt was 4 only inches. |
davep |
Mar 2 2008, 09:46 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,143 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
You could use NC thread and use threaded rod stock for any desired length.
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Wilhelm |
Mar 3 2008, 12:27 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 408 Joined: 7-September 07 From: Hooterville, OR Member No.: 8,088 Region Association: None |
You could use NC thread and use threaded rod stock for any desired length. Ah! I thought about that, but noticed most gear and harmonic balancer pullers used NF rather then NC threads. This make sense as the "ramp" of a NF thread is lower and hence gives you more pull per input torque applied and thought this is why NF was typically chosen for puller bolts. I suppose I could thread some drill rod in NF thread and harden it later to make it wear better. If I keep screwin' around with stuff like this, I'll never actually get a chance to work on my car. |
Eric_Shea |
Mar 6 2008, 10:10 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,275 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
There was a "very" cool package at the front door. When all the arms make it back from the powdercoaters I'll have 12 bearings to pull.
"Perfect Timing"! I'll post some results. Awesome!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smilie_pokal.gif) |
So.Cal.914 |
Mar 6 2008, 10:17 PM
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"...And it has a front trunk too." Group: Members Posts: 6,588 Joined: 15-February 04 From: Low Desert, CA./ Hills of N.J. Member No.: 1,658 Region Association: None |
Great idea. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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charliew |
Mar 7 2008, 09:52 AM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 2,363 Joined: 31-July 07 From: Crawford, TX. Member No.: 7,958 |
Wilhelm very nice, Thanks for the deminsions. The overall length of the shaft appears to be about 10 inches.(my girlfriends estimation) I'm guessing only the distance from the hub side of the collar is whats important though and the 2.75 x 1.134 step on the other end. I printed all of the pictures for reference for when I get to this. Also I may be able to "borrow a puller bolt from one of my other pullers" to save looking for a long bolt.
Thanks for the prototype. The 914 guys close around you are lucky to have you. I think I will use the first plate idea and split it and weld a threaded tube in the middle and then the flange studs won't be a problem. Charliew |
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